Rosie Anchors Gay Cruise

[sbp]

Comedian and former talk-show host Rosie O'Donnell has announced plans for what is billed as "the first gay cruise with family values."

During the cruise, which will depart New York for the Bahamas on July 11, gay and lesbian passengers will be able to learn about topics such as adoption and artificial insemination. O'Donnell said the first offering from R Family Vacations would be a weeklong cruise on the new Norwegian Dawn cruise liner.

O'Donnell founded the company with her partner Kelli O'Donnell and Gregg Kaminsky, formerly of gay travel agency Atlantis.


Rosie gives thumbsup to turkey basters.

[EvilHorace]

"the first gay cruise with family values."

THAT is SO wrong! Doesn't it normally take a male and female to have a "family" in nature or did I somehow miss something in Biology classes?

If gays want children, WHY are they gay? How normal of an upbringing can any child be having two gay parents? I love the gay arguement that their adopting and loving a child is better than having a male and female parent relationship where they don't love the child as if that's always the alternative. Totally absurd logic.

Then, let's bring up "equal rights" of minorities. Doesn't the term "gay cruise" segregate against straight people who'ld also want to go on that cruise?

[PreDatoR]

Originally posted by EvilHorace
THAT is SO wrong! Doesn't it normally take a male and female to have a "family" in nature or did I somehow miss something in Biology classes?

If gays want children, WHY are they gay? How normal of an upbringing can any child be having two gay parents? I love the gay arguement that their adopting and loving a child is better than having a male and female parent relationship where they don't love the child as if that's always the alternative. Totally absurd logic.

Then, let's bring up "equal rights" of minorities. Doesn't the term "gay cruise" segregate against straight people who'ld also want to go on that cruise?

Ya but see they are a minority so segregation is perfectly fine that way.

[Red Dawn]

Doesn't the term "gay cruise" segregate against straight people who'ld also want to go on that cruise?

They should call it "Cruise for the Vaginally Challenged"

[FlyingPenguin]

Frankly what two adults do in the privacy of their bedroom has nothing to do with their children.

Do you make love to your wife with the door open so the kids can watch?

A STRAIGHT couple might be into bondage or anal sex. That's not considered normal, but as long as they're doing it behind closed doors, does that make them bad parents?

I get the impression that people who find it objectionable for gay couples to have children think that the "gayness" will be taught to the children, and that's a bunch of rubbish. You're born gay or bisexual or straight.

Far as I'm concerned if a child is being raised in a loving and nurturing environment, that's the important thing. Doesn't matter if the parents are straight, gay, or a single parent (except that I pity any child being raised by Rosie ).

My 2 cents...

[EvilHorace]

Sorry but I don't buy that arguement that anyone is born gay or the wrong sex (like "God" F'ed up.... if you believe in a god that is?), I say it's learned behavior. There are more gay teens today than ever because it's now considered to be more acceptable, "normal" compared to generations before. When my son was in school, he said that it's now taught that it's just "an alternative lifestyle".

I also don't care what anyone does behind closed doors but I think that growing up with 2 parents, one being your natural female mother, the other being your natural male father is far better than having 2 un-natural parents of the same sex. As children, we learn ALOT by example whether good or bad. Those of us who had "normal parents" probably learned alot more about typical male/female relationships by mere example than what you might consider w/o really thinking about it. I know that having two bad parents of the same sex isn't a good thing either but that's not really a valid part of this arguement (2 bad normal parents vs 2 good gay parents).

Then....why does a person who's gay (obviously not wanting to share life with the opposite sex) want to then raise another person of the opposite sex? Yep, THAT could happen couldn't it? Doesn't make any sense to me at all. To me, it's selfish and not being done by people who are really looking out for a childs best interests. I'm sure that it's mostly gay women as I doubt that many gay men would want to raise children (most straight men don't.....just seems to happen ).

There's also no point in argueing here as it's already happening in some states and in years to come, the real test of time as to what'll happen to these children will have been tested. I don't think it's right but it's also not my problem either. Just talkin'.

[dadx2mj]

I get the impression that people who find it objectionable for gay couples to have children think that the "gayness" will be taught to the children, and that's a bunch of rubbish. You're born gay or bisexual or straight.

That may or may not be true. Actually I think there are more that MAKE THE CHOICE to be gay than there are those that have had the feeling all their life. Just my 2 cents.

[FlyingPenguin]

Evil, I have friends that are gay. Anyone who is gay and is being honest will tell you that most people who claim to be gay are bisexual. They may have a PREFERENCE though.

Everyone remembers having a cousin or uncle or something when they were growing up who was effeminate. Everyone kind of knew or suspected he/she was gay, but they got married and had kids and seemed to have a normal lifestyle.

Closet bisexuals who realized at that time it wasn't acceptable to be gay so they played the role they were supposed to.

Lots of phychological research has shown that homosexuality is not a learned behavior.

The reason we're seeing more people CHOOSING to be OPENLY gay is because it IS now acceptable. The percentages of people who are born gay are the same. The percentage of people who choose to live a gay life style is increasing.

I, like most straight men, find homosexuality uncomfortable, but what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom is their own business. Plenty of straight people around that do shit in their bedroom I'd rather not know about either.

There are plenty of people who find it objectionable to teach a child to hunt animals (not speaking for myself - I used to hunt with my father, and while I don't like hunting as an adult I don't see anything wrong with it - just not my thing).

So shall we get the government involved in controlling our lives even more than they are already?

Why don't we just let people live in peace and do whatever they want to do as long as they don't harm others?

Rosie wants to have a "gay family values" cruise, more power to the fat bitch. There's more important things to worry about in the word.

[dadx2mj]

Hey I have no problem with people who want to be gay. Especially if has FP says it is behind the closed door of their bedroom or at least in private. When I do get upset is when they want to rub it in everyone's face or put it on display and make it an issue. Hey if a bunch of gay people want to go on a cruise that is cool, but why does it have to be a "Gay Cruise"? It is because they want out attention and I am sorry when they ask for my attention it is going to be somewhat negative. Like I said if you are gay that is cool just dont rub it in my face or even worse my kids face. The way I see it they are the ones making it an issue.

[Red Dawn]

Do they make the choice to be gay by becoming a Catholic Priest??

[TheSovereign]

your not born anything. period.....sexual attraction comes at puberty
in studies it was found that homosexuals have attraction to the same sex before puberty indicating some anamoly.....being gay maybe wrong biologically and to some morally, but even before that its wrong mentally

· Stage 1: Sensitization- This actually occurs before puberty. At this time, lesbians and gay males don't even see homosexuality as personally relevant. They're status isn't even a question. They do however "typically acquire social experiences during their childhood's that serve later as bases for seeing homosexuality as personally relevant, lending support to emerging perceptions of themselves as possibly homosexual (Troiden, pg. 42).
-By this first stage, it is clear that some sort of attractiveness exists prior to one even being aware of his/her own preferred affection towards a particular gender.
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im sorry but if your attracted sexually to someone or something before puberty your wiring is crossed
and if u look at it from a darwinian perspective all gay people are biological failures because they wont breed

[jadinolf]

That picture is Rosie?

I thought it was Shamu.

[smb]

Originally posted by FlyingPenguin
..... You're born gay or bisexual or straight....

Sorry, I don't believe that. You have a choice as to who or what you sleep with. Next, we will be hearing how people who are in to beastiality are born to love goats.

Originally posted by FlyingPenguin
The reason we're seeing more people CHOOSING to be OPENLY gay is because it IS now acceptable.

Sorry, but it is not accepted either, it's tolerated, there is a difference.

[EvilHorace]

[Lots of phychological research has shown that homosexuality is not a learned behavior[/quote]

Maybe todays shrinks are told to say that because, as a shrink you'ld have to be on your patients side and tell a gay person that they are "normal" and/or "born that way". There are more openly gay people today so many are trying to tell one another that "everything's OK, it's natural".

In the '70s when I was in College and had to take phych. and sociology classes (same as the shrinks did btw), we were told that (unlike animals) "all human behavior is learned behavior" (no instincts) which means that no one is born gay, an asshole, a bigot, etc, etc.....one way or another we all learn from others.
I've met gay people too and I don't personally care if a person is gay nor do I care how they became that way. Some men are more feminine than others, some women are more masculine than others but not all of those who might seem borderline are typically gay. One chooses to become gay. I've known some who were straight and turned gay (go figure) so those obviously once had "normal" intentions, not born that way.




At any rate, all that's really sidetracking why I originally commented to this thread. He are gay women who obviously can't stand being with men long enough for a quicky (what....5 minutes?), YET they want to become artificially insemonated from a stranger and very possibly then raise a male child. Doesn't THAT strike you as being a bit unusual?
You here who are men, would you want to have an upbringing by 2 gay women? Not I.

[TheSovereign]

it is the agenda of most feminazi's to prove they dont need the opposite sex at all