Wow CNN has some nice election data tools.

Slugbait · Post by **Slugbait** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:24 pm

xsiled is correct. Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance should clear things up in this regard...

DoPeY5007 · Post by **DoPeY5007** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:58 am

Originally posted by Slugbait
Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance should clear things up in this regard...

but it is unconstitutional

Slugbait · Post by **Slugbait** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:04 am

Originally posted by DoPeY5007
but it is unconstitutional

Wow. I was totally caught unawares. After one hundred and twelve years, which United States judge declared the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional? And if this is true, why is it that every uniformed soldier hasn't deserted yet?

DoPeY5007 · Post by **DoPeY5007** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:33 am

Originally posted by Slugbait
which United States judge declared the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional?

The constitution it self says that it is.

Busby · Post by **Busby** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:33 pm

Originally posted by DoPeY5007
The constitution it self says that it is.

The constitution's amendment that seperates church and state was not intended for the purpose of keeping under God out of the pledge. The intent was to avoid situations like those in England where the King controlled both the government and the church. The amendment that was challenged which led to the ruling was the 1st amendment that allows for the freedom of religion. While the judge in San Francisco did rule the pledge unconstitutional, a higher judge did overturn that decision if I remember correctly.