Kick Back and Relax in the Cheers! Forum. Thoughts on life or want advice or thoughts from other pca members. Or just plain "chill". Originator of da Babe threads.
I'm still numb listend to it on the radio all day at work.... I hope Bush goes after the bastards and don't stop until then their mother, fathers, sons , daughtes fvck it the god damn country they live in is dead.... I'm :ping enraged about it.... These god damn cocksuckers have no regard for life, I've said it since the Gulf War, we just need to level the whole middle east and that would take care of a good majority of the terrorist activity that is present these days....That plane headed for Pitt that went down i think either A the pilot said fvck you and took it down himself or B our government took it out... B wouldn't surprise me at all given what had happend a hour previous... And thos palistine piles of shit i hope the Israeli's just kill all them sick fvcks... If bush was smart... After they figure out who did this.... Just to make a point i say take out a good share of that country.... Make a statment that we're sick of their shit and if this stuff keeps happening its not just gonna be the terrorists that suffer but a lot of others also.... At least it woke this country up, i hope the gov starts cracking down on this type of shit and letting them know we ain't gonna put up with it anymore... My heart goes to all the families of the victims.... Its truely a sad day in history............
Poop, Get one thing straight. This was NO ordinary crime. For you to defend the Palestinians after all the bullshit they've pulled is a slap in the face of any democratic citizen. They are cowardly killers. I personally will have none of this "infidel, my god is better than your god" bullsh*t on our country's soil, ever again.
From this day forward, any cocksucker muslim is my enemy.
Hatred is the root of most wars. I pray that most people do not feel this way. There are good and bad Muslims just like there are good AND bad Catholics, Hindus, or what ever other religeon you what to mention.
The guilty people should pay for this unfortunately the innocent will suffer too.
My thoughts and prayers are with all of us tonight.
VidmanII, please rethink your opinion. I hired a Muslim boy about a month ago. He is 16 and was born and raised right here in the Chicago area. He is a very well mannered young man, very intelligent and a wonderful sense of humor. I would be very proud to call him my son. I can't imagine him on anybodies enemy list.
Well I think we have to keep in mind that these people have experience with death every day. They don't value life like we do, and they aren't afraid to die. For this reason, they'll always have the upper hand. Go ahead and bomb them, but the next group of 50 people will step up to jack the planes...
There is no punishment suitable for this type of act. Only prevention of it happening in the future.
I'm suspicious that Bush already knows for sure who did this, but won't say for fear of choosing between launching some big a$$ missles or stepping down as president.
I am shocked and outraged. I can assure you that the armedforces are angry and would like nothing more than to retaliate for these attacks. We must use caution though, to start dropping bombs without consideration for innocent deaths is just as bad as those who have completed these horrible acts today.
There have been some good points here, the intelligence committee failed us today. They should have caught SOMETHING from all of this, too many variables involved for us to have not gotten a wif of this.
I have a muslim who works for me, works becide me to defend this country, shall I string him up? Does the fact that he is a patriot and an armed forces member give him reprive or shall I take him out without consideration of that?
We all want something back for this, we shall get something, I am confident of that. We have to make sure that what we do does not start a larger war that could escalate into something that would go nuclear.
I must admonish everyone to stay calm, be strong and be proud to be an american. We will come through this and be stronger for it.
bin-Laden has called on muslims world wide to kill americans. That makes them enemies of this state. Islam is not a race, it is a religion. It is my belief that no matter how much any muslim says he,she,they are peace loving people, the reality is that they see America as the enemy. So in light of today's events, I hold them responsible for the evil perpetrated on NYC, DC, and PA. They should not be permitted to enter the USA, and any that are here should promptly be expelled. THEN we should have a little "sitdown" with that POS Taliban mullah with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch until he squeaks up where that rat-f*ck bin-Laden is.
Stay calm? Tell that to people buried alive in the rubble of the world trade center as sure as I type this. You can pray all you want. I gave blood today for victims of the most horrific mass murder and destruction ever committed on our soil. I'd like to see a little muslim blood "donated" too. Only I'm not concerned that it end up in any little plastic bag. They count on you weepy, wimpy sympathizers to let them live free in this country until they are ready to hatch their little plots. I almost feel more contempt for you than them.
Vidman, this is not about you and me, this is about our country and all of those dead or dieing "as we type" . But yes, we must remain calm, I am on the other side of the country with my wife and two daughters on a high target base one hour away from D.C. If I can stay calm then we all should be able to.
We must resist the urge to turn our rage onto those in the states who had nothing to do with this tragedy. Just because they are a religion/race they are not guilty by association.
Your rage is warrented and expected, we all feel helpless and angry, it's our reactions to this that will define us and lead us into the next stage of american history.
By buying into hate you only succumb to what the terrorists want you to do. If you indiscriminantly lash out at large numbers of innocent people to punish the few madmen who did this, then we are no better than they are.
Anger is understandable, but undirected it serves no purpose. I'm angry too. This country just had a wake up call, but there is a proper way to handle this.
Please don't vent your anger on someone just because they are of the Muslim faith. Muslims believe in a God of peace as we do, it's just certain fanatics that have twisted that religion and warped it for their own purposes and duped some people into following them. The Catholic church itself was guilty of heinous crimes in the name of God during the Crusades and the Inquisition.
Let's not jump to conclusions - remember how certain we all were of a foreign terrorist involvement in the Murrah Building bombing, and the shock when we found out it was a domestic terrorist. We don't have the answers yet.
Don't worry, the perpetrators WILL come to justice. Ignore the nonsense the news keep spouting about the fact that we hardly ever catch terrorists like the bombers of the Beirut barracks. THAT was different.
THIS was perpetrated HERE and you CAN'T run a MASSIVE operation like this without leaving a paper trail in this country - this isn't friggin' Beirut.
Some items that I and others have noted during the day, and some news advisors have also pointed out:
- This was likely YEARS in the planning. Granted there was a major intelligence failure because some inkling of it should have leaked, but that's another issue.
- This was a LARGE, well finance and well executed operation. A LOT of people and resources were involved. THERE IS a paper trail. People entered this country (either with fake or real identification) and some will now not be leaving it.
- Other accomplices MUST have been involved. Support teams, and most likely people that were planted YEARS ago working as airport personnel (plane cleaners, airport maintenance, baggage handlers). You just couldn't pull something like this off without insiders. Those people have a paper trail, some will probably try to leave the country and you can bet we'll be watching for that.
- When a lot of people are involved - even fanatics, people talk. Someone will leak something.
- People probably saw things in the past weeks, months or years that, in light of what happened today, may provide clues to the perpetrator's identities.
It'll take time - it may seem like a long time, but there will be a painstakingly detailed investigation and we WILL find the answers and find the people who did it.
As many of our officials have said, now is not the time for recriminations. Now is when we pray and shed a tear for the dead, donate time, money or blood, or whatever to help get through this.
Meanwhile the law enforcement agencies will sift through the wreckage and it's AMAZING what modern forensics can do.
This generation just had it's Pearl Harbor - it was probably as rude a slap in the face back then as it was today. The difference is that back then the enemy was known, and attacked mostly military targets.
Today's enemy is a COWARD, attacking innocent men, women and children, and is afraid to even boast about what he accomplished lest our wrath befall him.
He's HOPING we will all run amok over here blaming each other and attacking certain racial groups - it only makes us look weaker in the eyes of the rest of the world. We need to be mature about this, and set an example.
I'm PROUD of a lot that's happened today. People are SWAMPING the local blood bank here (central Florida). New Yorkers - constantly reputed to be hard-nosed bastards - are out in the streets by the hundreds helping professionals find survivors. There were incredible acts of selflessness and bravery shown on international TV today. And, you'll note, there's been no looting in Manhattan as many people expected.
This country always has come up fighting when it's been kicked in the balls.
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“The Government of Spain will not applaud those who set the world on fire just because they show up with a bucket.” - Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro Sánchez
"By buying into hate you only succumb to what the terrorists want you to do. If indiscriminantly lash out at large numbers of innocent
people to punish the few madmen who did this, then we are no better than they are."
Wake up you FOOL ! Your nation was ATTACKED today ! Pearl Harbor was a jay-walking ticket compared to what we witnessed today. Do you really think this was the result of a few madmen? This was as complex an operation as could only be carried out by a vast network of terrorist cells, many of whom are state sponsored ( e.g. Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Afghanistan to name a few). You yourself say that it's possible that accomplices may have been in place for years ( your sweet co-worker Achmed). Well doesn't that speak volumes on limitations of our immigration policies and failure of our intelligence communities?
If we keep letting these f*ckheads in, it's only going to get worse. Canada is no help either as numerous cells have been found to use that country as a staging area for attacks against the USA. Remember the Seatlle incident prior to the millenium celebration? I firmly believe that if a muslim in the USA is forced to choose between his f*cked-up religion or country ( this one, the US of A), he'll throw down with his bruh's the mullahs, and ayatollahs. It may be your ass they get when that happens.
Americans should demand blood on the blades of justice this time folks.It's time to take off the kid gloves when dealing with these people. This was not only a attack on the United States,but an attack on the entire free world.If you are not willing to go to war over your fellow Americans being slaughtered on American soil what exactly is enough for you?Do these groups need to nuke NY,Washington,London,Tokyo,Moscow etc.. before you are willing to take strong action against them?
In my mind any country that allows these groups to hide/operate within them is our enemy.I'm no fan of war but there comes a time when talk and diplomacy just do not work.If we cant feel safe in our own country(feeling fear when a jet passes overhead)are we truly free?
I think hate and anger are very appropriate. Not towards every one of a certain race or religon but to any body who has anything no mater how small to do with such an act. We need to find out for sure who did this, I don't think there is much doubt there and then eliminate them from the face of the earth. I like what Bush said " We shall draw no distinction between the terrosits and those that harbor them." The U.S. on the whole has tried to be too polically correct and it has got us no where. I say it is time to stop caring what other country think and kick some ass. We are so powerful but yet are afraid of offending some country and end up looking weak. These terrorist think they can get away with things like this because they have been getting away with it for years with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. If our policy was, You bloody my nose, I take your head off they would be much less likely to consider these kinds of acts in the first place.
