havent we all been told cpus are getting smaller in size ?

renovation · Post by **renovation** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:25 pm

so what the hell - i guess no body told steve jobs
Apple Computer Inc. chief executive Steve Jobs holds the new IBM processor used by the new Apple G5 computer at the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco, Monday, June 23, 2003. Jobs gave the keynote speech that introduced OS X operating system, code-name Panther.
http://apnews.excite.com/image/20030623 ... =D7RRP9S00
:)

DoPeY5007 · Post by **DoPeY5007** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:53 pm

damn, it would take a room fan to cool that thing!

matt719 · Post by **matt719** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:09 pm

I bet it needs little cooling, there is so much surface area. Although it looks rediculous, it's actually a good idea to make something with that much surfance area.

Jim Z · Post by **Jim Z** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:15 pm

I love clueless journalists

psst... wafer.

blade · Post by **blade** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:17 pm

Looks like a new psychodelic frizbee. :funny

Post by **FlyingPenguin** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:05 pm

For those that haven't caught on - that's a raw substrate wafer as it comes out of a fabrication line - it has hundreds of processor chips (just the little chips in the center of your CPU) on it. They need to be cut out in the next step and a soldered to a CPU package.

80% of a CPU is just the package to breakout all the wires to pins. The actual CPU itself is just the little chip in the middle.

renovation · Post by **renovation** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:12 pm

now flying penguin
are you sure of this

were talking about those odd ,strange ,and totally different things know as
Apple Computers!
its rounds and kinda looks like a cross between a golden and red delicious APPLE sliced thin and give lots of MIRACLE GROW to get all that extra computing power .
:B

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:03 pm

no... im pretty sure thats just 1 cpu. them mac people do some strange stufff... and that wouldent suprize me

Hipnotic_Tranz · Post by **Hipnotic_Tranz** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 7:29 pm

Originally posted by FlyingPenguin
For those that haven't caught on - that's a raw substrate wafer as it comes out of a fabrication line - it has hundreds of processor chips (just the little chips in the center of your CPU) on it. They need to be cut out in the next step and a soldered to a CPU package.

80% of a CPU is just the package to breakout all the wires to pins. The actual CPU itself is just the little chip in the middle.

Why would they make it circular then? You're wasting a ton on the edges.

DoPeY5007 · Post by **DoPeY5007** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 7:37 pm

Originally posted by Hipnotic_Tranz
Why would they make it circular then? You're wasting a ton on the edges.

they just cut it like that for this show thing, they aren't really circle

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:11 pm

no... they are round like that.

eGoCeNTRoNiX · Post by **eGoCeNTRoNiX** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:21 pm

The BIG MAC? he he he he

Post by **FlyingPenguin** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:26 pm

They ARE round - they have to be. The substrate is made by sending a beam of light through a mask. The image of the mask is projected through a series of lenses in a circle, thus the target needs to be a circle.

Took me a while to find a chip fab tutorial on Google, but here you go: http://www.infras.com/Tutorial/sld002.htm

Post by **TonyH** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:38 pm

Nice overview on chip fabrication there FP. I actually spent a year working for a photo"mask" plant verifying pattern files and prepping the programs before they were sent downstairs to "write". It was a hell of a change from the automotive and aircraft industry where thousands of an inch were consider precise to find yourself trying to comprehend a nanometer. :;

DoPeY5007 · Post by **DoPeY5007** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:02 pm

Originally posted by FlyingPenguin
Took me a while to find a chip fab tutorial on Google, but here you go: http://www.infras.com/Tutorial/sld002.htm

interesting....

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havent we all been told cpus are getting smaller in size ?

havent we all been told cpus are getting smaller in size ?

What will they call it?