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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:35 pm
by Biohazard
I've made it quite clear that I'm leaving this horrible job SOON. Do I still have to give a 2 week notcie? I already told my boss to start looking for another tech (it took them a year from the time they posted Gunner's spot till he got hired) so they won't have as much down time without me. I've never actually quit or gotten fired from a job, this is the only job I've ever had (6 years June 1st), and all I've done is get promoted from intern to full time tech.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:41 pm
by blade
You should give at least a weeks notice. Anytime you apply for another job and if they check your previous employment records that's one thing they look for. If someone left with no notice. If someone left with no notice most wouldn't hire that person, thinking they'd do the same to them.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:48 pm
by hammer01
Like blade says but 2 weeks is better though, if you have vacation make sure you get paid for it, however and if they are asses about it maybe you should put in for your vacation and then give them the 2 week notice.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:49 pm
by Biohazard
state of Michigan law says all they can ask is IF I worked there. Nothing else. Though most employers will break the law and say good things about someone.
I plan on giving them 2 weeks min notice before I leave.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:51 pm
by DirkBelig
Telling them to look for a replacement is tantamount to giving notice, but you should give them two weeks as a courtesy. Any new employer will understand and may, in fact, worry about you from the jump if you just bail on your current gig with notice. They may suspect that you'll do the same to THEM!
You started working at 14?!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 4:08 pm
by Biohazard
I just checked and I have 21 days of vacation stored up

I think that may be a nice thing to use up here. I also have another 12 days of sick/personal time that I can use too... but I don't want to be employed by this place for that much longer. I think I'll take 2 weeks vacation, come back and give my 2 week notice then split.
And yes Dirk, I started working as an aprentice to Iam4u2nv when I was 14. I took over full time at 17 when his co-worker got himself fired (not even going to get into that one).
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 4:21 pm
by wvjohn
I used to hire people in a state where all they could say was whether someone had worked there between x and y - good employees almost always got good anecdotal references - bad employees all they said is "we can confirm the dates of employment"
always give abundant notice - if you have a plan, share the plan with your bosses so that you leave ona positive note for "greater career opportunities"
bosses ususally don't care if you were unhappy or whether you thought they were morons - it's usually a pay your money take your choice type deal - most bosses don't like their jobs either ... given the crunch i read about in the it field you need to take all the steps you can to make sure they don't mess with you - also use that vacation time to interview for other jobs - beleive me it's much easier to get a job when you've got one - if you've been out of work for a while people start to think you've got cooties

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2001 8:38 pm
by Danielm7
Sure they can't say anything bad about you "legally" but I've heard very interesting ways around that one. And sometimes not being able to say anything can be just as bad, I heard once "you know my mother told me if you can't say anything good then ..." and that was all they had to say.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 9:18 am
by xena
Taking the two week vacation ,may be what you need so that you can mentally regroup, check the job market, and have some fun. Didn't you just get over being sick? Then when you come back maybe they won't be on your nerves so bad and if they are you still can put in your notice. Most companies do not care much about the people working for them just the bottom $line. good luck
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 9:55 am
by Biohazard
heheh, just applied at Oakland Schools

a basketball team mate of mine happens to be the son of the superintendant there, and also a supervisor in the IT department. of course Oakland schools has 43 techs as opposed to our 3, so life should be a little easier there.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 1:20 pm
by Gumby
ah Bio...beware of the IT fiefdom(hope I spelled that right) It can get really ugly with lots of techs. I've seen it happen, not something you want to get caught in.
Just my $.02 CND
(or about $.00001US)
Sean
PS...YGM
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 1:28 pm
by Biohazard
hey gumby: splain that one. I don't understand
BTW your system is set to roll out later today or tomorrow. How far are you from the border? I may just hand deliver it

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 1:44 pm
by Gumby
I have seen some places get really ugly when the techs start to try and control the IT department. It usually happens in a Windows/*NIX environment. You start to get turf wars going on and the new guys are usually the ones who get hung out to dry. Just sit quiet and listen you first couple of days and see if there are groupings of techs. Doesn't happen everywhere, I was in a place where that happened and I have heard one place goes so far as playing dirty tricks on the other group type thing. You know change the IP here, reconfigure the router there, maybe even a couple of pasword changes, and though in some account hacking too boot!

Ick, glad I never worked there.
HTH
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 2:26 pm
by renovation
mike
take your vacation time and look around -use your sickdays for interveiws -and give your boss a letter that you have taken a offer from so and so company and that on such a date will be your last date of employment ! also be a nice BSer and put in there if they have any question that they may call you after you leave for help

knowing you will not return the call

i have in the past and it did wonders for me

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2001 2:31 pm
by blade
Bio please see this:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview ... did=343872
I hope you always keep an updated and working email in your profile.