This is about 3 months old. No problems, works perfectly.
Includes everything with retail PLUS Notmad Software. Has the latest
firmware installed. Guaranteed NON DOA. Here's some links.
Notmad Software (eons better than creative's software & $25 value)
$265 SHIPPED
LINKS
http://www.redchairsoftware.com/notmad/screens.php
http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox_zen/
I am strapped for cash so no trades, paypal or MO is fine. EMAIL or AIM
is fastest way to get ahold of me.