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I have an AXIA Y @1.4 in it, but it isnt a DDR mobo. I have 512mb of CAS2 Crucial

Want me an XP 1700+ and some superglue and conductive pen.......

that would be nice and cheap.....but sohuld I do the whole Mobo and go DDR?

I feel like a power hike and just the cpu would be well affordable. But is my 512mb of CAS2 on my Iwill mobo gonna do it justice? Rest of the system: SCSI HDD and Burner, Rad 8500 LE at 275/550.

Think I should just up the CPU and do a whole new system in 6 months, with the latest then, or do a big amount of dough now?

Unless a new bios or something has changed the situation, you may find that your KK266 won't run an XP processor. Mine didn't. Perhaps some versions of the board will, but I am not sure if this is so. Anyway, I had to dump my KK266 when I won an XP2000+ in a contest.

When I got it, it was because it said Palomino Support. I have flashed the BIOS to the latest which is supposed to support Palomino chips.

I hope it does! I aint wrong am I.......Palomino IS an XP chip innit?

Yeah, the Palomino is the XP. Your mobo shoudln't have any problems running the 1700+ I think.

my shuttle runs the XP easly enough.

Greg

NICE......cheers men!

Zak33:

If you're gonna upgrade, why not get the Athlon XP 2000+??? Push it past 1.7 GHz, and then you'll notice a difference. This Palomino CPU should be recognized by your bios, where the 2200+ Thoroughbred might not be. If you are running a 1.4 GHz T-bird right now, it's gonna take a big jump in speed to make it worth while. On the other hand, going from SDR RAM to DDR RAM will be noticable, even with the same CPU. But you are going to spend more money on that route, if you include the cost of both the mainboard and the RAM.

If you can do a whole new system in 6 months, I would just play with the one you have now, in terms of modding the case, overclocking some more, and stuff like that. At the end of the year, some new CPU's will be out, and even the Athlon XP 2200+ will seem cheap in comparison. It's more fun to work out some radical cooling solutions, or to paint the case some wild color......

Check out some of these modded cases; look at page 18 for one I did back in January:

http://www.hitechmods.com/gallery2/page18/page18.shtml

Now THAT is a proper answer. Thanks man...shall do as you say in part one and wait a tad until the new mobos and cpu's are out and about.

Am not really a case modder with paint etc....but a bit of overclocking is mine to be had every day! Might work on heatsinks on this Radeon for now!

Cheers

Bigal why pay the money for a 2000+ when u can get a AGOIA stepping chip and run 1.75 no sweat with these. Mines running at 1.83 Gig for 2200+ speeds and its a 1700+ which is stock 1.46 Gig And i got it for $66 shipped.

gets better..........a 1700+ is cheap as chips........that was my original plan!

PreDatoR:

Yeah, you mentioned that route before to me in another post. If you can get that particular chip, and your mainboard bios will provide the voltage adjustments / FSB adjustments / multiplier adjustments, then yes, it's a cheaper and more fun way to go. I was stuck with the MSI K7N420 Pro, a limited-potential overclocking board. I didn't have a way to specify the AGOIA stepping Athlon XP 1700+ chip; can you get that online, or do you have to go looking for it in computer stores? I can only remember seeing a "specific lot" chip for sale one time, and it was at a computer show. They wanted a premium price too, about 20% more than the stock chip.

On top of all those justifications, I could argue that you might be able to get a higher performance by overclocking the Athlon XP 2000+, especially if there are particular steppings of those chips that perform better. However, if Zak33 isn't into modding the case, and is looking for the most bang for the buck, you are probably right in the end. *&

All of the 1600's and 1700's coming from newegg are the AGOIA's.. There's also a newer stepping that is just as good AGKGA or something like that. Or the AROIA's are good overclockers at a lower voltage. I had a KK266 never ran an XP on it but its a awesome overclocking board.

That's good to know. But don't get me started on buying more computer stuff - I don't have a machine to put that chip in, unless I upgrade the mainboard and memory from either my Asus A7V T-bird or Abit KA7 Athlon Slot A machines. I'm better off just hanging tight until the end of the year at this point.

By the way, I was busy a few minutes ago. I flashed the new 2.6 bios for the MSI K7N420 Pro mainboard, and although it was successful, it would'nt boot! You know the feeling - it just beeps every 2 seconds, without even thinking about accessing the floppy or hard drive. Lots of stuff was going through my mind - nothing I can say here! Before I blew a head gasket though, I remembered that the best thing to do is to clear the CMOS. Yes folks, it worked. I was so proud of myself, that I started the overclocking process, bumping it up to 1855 MHz with a modest FSB increase to 137 MHz. I can see that the temperature increased one degree C, so that isn't too bad.

Man, I thought that I had killed it.....