Temps too high?

Lazlo Panaflex · Post by **Lazlo Panaflex** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:15 pm

Hey fellow abusers, new AMD user here...just built a box that's got a Barton 2500+ running @ 2.2...my temps at idle ~47 C - seems pretty high. the VCORE is set at 1.7. Full load, it gets hot....57-58C (reported by Motherboard Monitor 5.3)

My ambient temps are a bit high as well (~33-34C). I have the retail HS w/ arctic silver (installed correctly)...Have plenty of cooling as well (two front intake fans (1 over the hard drive), and 1 sucking air out the back).

Case is an Antec SX630II, 300W pwr supply. I have a Shuttle AN35N Ultra 400; read somewhere that this mainboard runs a bit hotter than other brands...anyone confirm that?

Ran Prime95 for a while, and didn't get any warnings/errors.

Is my Barton/system gonna die an untimely death? Should I get a better cooling solution?
Would appreciate your thoughs/suggestions.

Thanks all,
LP

Airpizza · Post by **Airpizza** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:23 pm

I believe you are a little high...correct me on this though (I dont have a barton yet). But may I ask...does the retail box come with anything to put between the heatsink and cpu? Like thermal grease or sumat like that?

eGoCeNTRoNiX · Post by **eGoCeNTRoNiX** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:28 pm

Get an SLK-800/900 and enjoy the breeze.. I've got an SLK-900A running a 92mm fan and my temps on an 1700+@2.174ghz is 38*C Full Load..

eGo

dadx2mj · Post by **dadx2mj** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:39 pm

From my experience the Barton's tend to run a little hotter than the Palomino or TBred core chips. I have a 2500 running at MHz with an Alpha 8045 with a huge ass Delta fan on it. Under a full load I never see temps over 50-51 and that is on a hot day. I would say your ambient temp is a big part of your high temps. For a stock cooler I dont think you are that bad tho but obviously a better cooler would lower your temps.

blade · Post by **blade** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:54 pm

That isn't bad for just retail cooling. And yes that shuttle does run the cpu a little hotter than others. I am using the same one now.

As dad said, your ambient temp does effect the cpu temp. When room temp changes so does your cpu temp. Also, does your case have decent cooling? Try running with the side panel off and see if the cpu temp changes. If it does, then you need better cooling.

Better cpu coolers include the slk900a, slk800, sk7, volcano 12, silent boost. Either are much better than stock.

Still though, your temps are within AMD specs. But most of us prefer lower temps because things usually last longer. Yeah, like we'll keep these setups for over 3 years.

Airpizza · Post by **Airpizza** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:08 pm

ANy suggestions on what the high temp should be if i only want the processor for 2 years?

blade · Post by **blade** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:26 pm

If you're serious, then that may depend cpu to cpu. But I'd stay under 60c.

And another reason we like things cool is when we trade or sell our setup. We want them to last for the next person.

Demrok · Post by **Demrok** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:15 pm

note to self...
don't buy airpizza's Barton in a few years...
got it !

just kidding !!

Lazlo Panaflex · Post by **Lazlo Panaflex** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:38 pm

Thanks for the replies, guys. Glad to hear it's operating within normal parameters. lol I'm cheap..gonna stay with the retail cooler for now...but thanks for the recommendations. Maybe if someone wants to get rid of one on the FS forums.
heck, if it dies that'll give me an excuse to maybe step up to something a bit faster.. heh

Airpizza - the stock cooler only comes with the thermal pad. If you do get one, I recommend getting some Arctic Silver, and get rid of that pad. Flying Penguin and some other guys posted a good how-to guide on installing AMD heat sinks a little while ago...worth checking out!

VidmanII · Post by **VidmanII** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:33 pm

I've built several nforce2/barton25+ systems for my family and other people. Using a wide range of mobos from Epox, Shuttle, Abit, and DFI. Of those four, the Abit NF7-S reports the highest temps using motherboard monitor 5x. DFI the lowest, and the Epox and Shuttle mobos falling in between. That's with the Barton25 running @ 2.2 Ghz or higher in every case.

The Shuttle boxes generally have had temps of 29C system/37C cpu idle and 30C/ 44-47C cpu under load. You may want to redo your thermal paste and heatsink mount. Also, case fans/airflow play an important part when OCing, as I'm sure you know. 2200-2500rpm case fans don't cut it, IMHO, when in an OCed setting. 2800-3K rpms make a big difference and to me anyway, aren't that much louder.

Lazlo Panaflex · Post by **Lazlo Panaflex** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:32 am

Yeah, I may just replace the AMD stock cooler after all...though I'm reluctant, since the thing was such a pain in the butt to install in the first place, and the fragility of the core.

VidmanII · Post by **VidmanII** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:29 pm

Not for nuthin' but I use Thermalright's SLK700 w/ 70mm YS Tech TMD fans on all the Barton 25's I've built for people. Great for moderate OCing, relatively quiet, visually appealing and best of all. cheap.

The fan and hs can be had from KD computers in a combo deal for $24. Check it.

http://www.kdcomputers.com/eui/prime/profile/1158.htm

No offense, but those stock coolers just don't cut the mustard.

Lazlo Panaflex · Post by **Lazlo Panaflex** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:54 pm

None taken

I think I'll check out that deal.

The weird thing is that a couple of my co-workers got the retail coolers with the copper plate. Mine wasn't copper...d'oh !

Ciao
LP

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