cases??

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:51 pm

just use the chrome torque converter cover fo the base and put a sheet of plexi glass for the base so the bottom lights up in a red or anyother color.

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:11 pm

exactly. I have a nice aluminum cast pan ($90 new) that will hold all the drives and such... ive been thinking of getting a chorme pan... but they are thin and flimsy compared to this thing.

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:23 pm

I've been wondering how would I install the drivers? would I just hack up a old computer sketelon? or how would I do it??

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:07 pm

let me go find my pan... i plan no mill out a spot for the drives to go in. and inside ill use an old drive cage and mout that to the pan.

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:01 pm

I was talking to a guy tonight at our first car club meeting and he works in a machine shop and he does CNC machining, anyways after talking to him hes saying that if I'm going to cut out the valve body on this case, I can use a dremel (spelling?) but I should use a cutting liquid to cool the case down. I'll be starting on the machining of this case hopefully tomarrow, and I'll include pictures. while I'm doing that.

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:28 pm

yea.... its gonna take you a year to cut that much wiht a dremmel... youd be better off using a torch and melting it out then go back wiht a big grinder to smooth it out.

If you are goiung to do it with a dremmel i wish you the best of luck. My trans is sitting at a tractor trailer repair yard.... when the plasma cutter ever gets used... it will get cut.

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:12 am

wouldn't the torch destroy the metal? I guess if I do it that way I would have to grind down the burnt parts in the case.

canton_kid · Post by **canton_kid** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:24 pm

Very interesting, but personally I think you are using the wrong parts.

Should be using an engine block instead, it already has a nice big fan and water cooling built in, and easy hook up for the radiator too

Maybe a nice 302?

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:12 pm

you know how heavy that is compared to a empty trans? a trans is aluminium and a block (in most cases) is cast iron. big difference, you spine will notice.

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:47 pm

if I was to use a engine block, I would never use a 302, there not even good enough for it, there not even good enough for well anything except maybe a breakwater. but as pugsley said they would kill you in the weight.
the gm transmission is great.

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:18 pm

Id have to dissagree with you about the 302... I have one and it works great with my tractor....

I drag it behind and it makes a good plow.

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:09 pm

you corrected me, thats another use for a ford engine. lol

canton_kid · Post by **canton_kid** » Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:24 am

Gee guys, it's hot enough already and just April so I don't want any extra heat by starting an open flame, but....

302 is a good engine, at least the old ones were. I modded quite a few of them years ago

Shaved heads, polished ports, performance cams and pistons etc...

Course I like Chevy too. I've done lots of building many years ago, never really preffered either over the other. Just depends what it goes in to me, like keep ford a ford and chevy a chevy, I always hated cars like a ford with a chevy engine, or pontiac with a toyota engine

Don't care if it's the right engine but I at least like it to be the same brand!

I have noticed from the old hot rodding days when I burned em up, ALOT. A ford will slip a rod bearing and keep on runing often! GM rod bearings slip and almost always lock the engine right then!

Course either way your crank is shot!!!
Geuss it just depends if you drive it home or tow it home!

Trannies worked like this,
A Gm tranny burns out it's dead, tow home! Chrysler fries the reverse and low bands, drive home and don't park where you have to back out! Fords, I never had one die!

Most everything was years 65-75 that I ran so hard. Not much older or newer, but I ran the tar out of those years!

I would like to point out, all the engines I have blown were basically stock! A couple were just patch jobs of a junk engine. Nothing I built myself ever came back apart though, once I assembled an engine and ran it, it ran till I sold it or junked the car for other reasons.

Anyway I was joking about using an engine block though, but I geuss your right, it would be far too heavy! Course it would be neat for an auto shops computer! Mount it on a cheap engine stand and make the monitor look like tune up equipment. Maybe gut out a coil to hold the mouse and run the cable into a hollow distributor for conecting, make it look like a coil wire. Perhaps hinge the intake manifold to flip up and store the keyboard under it. All the external wires like speakers and network cable could be made to look like connections to the tune up equipment. I think those engine anylizers have lots of wires too

Course I would not take it to a lan party.

rat fink · Post by **rat fink** » Thu May 15, 2003 10:49 am

ford has always been a problem with my family, all there engine either had piston knock or fried heads.
but dodge and chevy have always been the best. (dodge trannys hold up) but the chevy's are the best we have, you can run a 350 out of oil drive around for 3 days or so with 0 psi and then put in a litre of oil and your good for another year. also you can swap many many parts from chevys. like something from a van to a pickup to a car. and vice versa.

canton_kid · Post by **canton_kid** » Sat May 17, 2003 3:55 am

If you ever drove any engine at 0 psi oil presure for 3 days and did not lock it up you were extremely luckily or the presure gauge was not working correctly and you actually had presure and oil but did not know it, or you were dreaming

Yea chevy and dodge are good. The older ones much better than the late 70' and 80's for sure. Not that up on the 90's stuff.

I burned up enough cars hot rodding and rebuilt enough of them that others had burned up to know the main charatoristics and faults with Ford, Gm, Dodge. Long as you stay in the correct family many parts interchange well with all of them. I call GM a family and buick or chevy a brand for example.

Long as you got the right setup you can swap nearly anything with any of them if you stay in the same family. Although I have a dodge shelby Daytona nearly nothing will swap with the dodge shadows!

You can take most Olds, Buick, Chevy starters for the old big block engines and use them on the other brand. Have to change the nose piece because some go on the left others go on the right and they bolt up different. Change that nose on a chevy starter to the nose from a olds starter and you have an olds starter. Most big block engines swap well from brand to brand too. Fords do the same thing but most the time you don't even have to swap the nose. Sometimes you do though like when I put a 302 starter on my 460 lincoln engine in my one ton truck!

Long as your changing heads on a small block to other size heads for a small block they often swap well also. I'm pretty sure the heads for a 340 and 360 dodge/plymouth will swap, but of course your gonna have trouble if you try to use 440 heads

Same with the olds 425 and 455 engines, same swapabililty.

Most Fords were the same way also. Confusion arrises with the 351 though! There were 3 different 351 engines. Cleveland, Modified and Windsor. One was a small block and would swap with a 302. I think the other two were big blocks. The 360 was in a class of it's own in trucks, whereas a 390, 302, 460, and several straight 6's were in cars, trucks, and vans and would swap well with others.

I've swapped many engines. Right now I have an 81 Ford 1 ton box truck with an unknown year 460 big block from a full sized lincoln! I think it's about a 77 but not sure, could be a 75? Only thing about swapping it was the distributor wires had a different plug to the brain I think and the truck exhaust manifolds had to be used because the truck has bigger pipes than the car had. It all bolted together fine though.

I drive all 3 brands, though I preffer ford family over most others. We all like what we like for whatever reasons. I have an 84 Tbird 85 Tbird and looking at buying a 89 couger. Also have 84 Marquis, all have the same V6 engine and trannies. I have an 84 Marqius junker I bought for the engine, it has a 2.4 straight 4 (figure that one out) I plan to put in my ranger pickup which has a 2.0 4cyl now locked up.
I got 84 van and 88 van I drive, and a parts 78 van, all halftons and a 3/4 ton unknown year van all with 302's. Almost everythng will interchange though the 88 is feul injected and the rest aren't.

Wife and kid counted my cars the other day while we were sitting outside. I got 5 vechicles registered and insurred to drive. Total number of cars, trucks and vans was 20, plus 1 motorcycle. That did not count 2 vehicles I don't have home yet. Left them at a friends house. Most of those run and could be driven or need just a little work. A few are just junk parts cars though.