Iraqi cleric: 9/11 was a 'miracle from God'

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 11:36 am

The Al Qaeda Terror Cell was in the Autonamous Kurdish region of Northern Iraq working seperately from the Secular Iraqi Government.In fact they were mostly comprised of Islamic Fundementalist Kurds who were sworn enemies of Hussien. If anything they were supported by Iranians but not the Baathist Iraqi's.

dadx2mj · Post by **dadx2mj** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:27 pm

why do i bother with people who dont wanna learn

You are right I am done with this.

TheSovereign · Post by **TheSovereign** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:48 pm

Originally posted by Red Dawn
The Al Qaeda Terror Cell was in the Autonamous Kurdish region of Northern Iraq working seperately from the Secular Iraqi Government.In fact they were mostly comprised of Islamic Fundementalist Kurds who were sworn enemies of Hussien. If anything they were supported by Iranians but not the Baathist Iraqi's.

if that was true would saddam let us go in and stop them?
think a little man, this war was inevitable

Oatmeal · Post by **Oatmeal** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:55 pm

I suppose if we had a terrorist cell operating in North Dakoda, it would be separate from the government, and any attacks on our country by Iraq because of that cell would be considered uncalled for by the Red Dawn if it were these terrorists that destroyed the two tallest buildings in Iraq.

That makes sense.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:02 pm

Originally posted by TheSovereign
if that was true would saddam let us go in and stop them?
think a little man, this war was inevitable

The very moment the Dub was sworn into office the War was inevitabloe.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:04 pm

Originally posted by Oatmeal
I suppose if we had a terrorist cell operating in North Dakoda, it would be separate from the government, and any attacks on our country by Iraq because of that cell would be considered uncalled for by the Red Dawn if it were these terrorists that destroyed the two tallest buildings in Iraq.

That makes sense.

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Oatmeal · Post by **Oatmeal** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:06 pm

Originally posted by Red Dawn
I'm sure Clinton would have done the same thing as the Dub after the 9/11 attack with the exception of invading Iraq.

Regarding the invasion of Iraq, the only reason I supported it was because of the tales of vast quantities of WMDs,an advanced Nuclear Weapons Program, the alleged ldirect links to Al Qaeda and Iraq posing a threat to the US. Since none of those seem to be the case I feel that I along with other Americans were deceived into supporting the Dub's excellent adventure into Iraq. If he had just come out and told us that the invasion was preordained by him and his Neocon Handlers and was to liberate the Iraqi people I wouldn't have supported it as I feel that it hurt the war on terror and made the world a less safer place.

Ha! Clinton would have given them a pat on the back and sent them away with two new jet fighters to replace the American Boeings.

Here's the logic of an anti-Bush:

If we eliminate the source of funding for terrorism, it gets worse because somehow these terrorists get more numerous when we kill them off.

And there he goes again assuming that Bush lied. It's not possible that he wasn't mistaken? He lied? How do we know you're telling the truth? When all you do is insult the President, you're no better than Kerry.

I'm sure you don't mean to tell falsehoods, but no one is going to listen to someone who’s constantly pointing fingers at people without giving even good circumstantial proof. That’s why Kerry doesn’t make his position known.

It's genius really. If we elect Kerry, no one will ever be able to say "He Lied!" because he'll just come back and say, "You didn't understand." I've heard this before. Words have no meaning?

Oatmeal · Post by **Oatmeal** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:09 pm

Originally posted by Red Dawn
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Exactly my point.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:45 pm

Originally posted by Oatmeal
Ha! Clinton would have given them a pat on the back and sent them away with two new jet fighters to replace the American Boeings.

I seriously doubt it. The hypocritical Conservatives wouldn't have been yelling "Wag the Dog" after the 9/11 attack like they did every time Clinton Bombed Iraq in retaliation of Iraq kicking out the inspectors or shooting at out Jets in the "No Fly Zone"

Here's the logic of an anti-Bush:

If we eliminate the source of funding for terrorism, it gets worse because somehow these terrorists get more numerous when we kill them off.

Actually cutting off the source of funding and hitting the Terrorists where they are (Afghanistan) was the right ploy for fighting terrorism. Bush did the right thing following 9/11 and I fully supported him in those actions

And there he goes again assuming that Bush lied. It's not possible that he wasn't mistaken? He lied? How do we know you're telling the truth? When all you do is insult the President, you're no better than Kerry.

Whew, I thought you were going to say that I was no better than those Checkenhawk Neocons. In my opinion when you are going to wage a full scale war on a soveirn nation there is no room for mistakes, especially the magnitude of the mistakes the Dub made for his reasons. But I now don't really believe those were his reasons. I do bewlieve that the war was preordained by the Dub and his Chickenhawk Neocon Handlers. Why else would he stack his Cabinet with those whose main agenda prior to 9/11 was to forcefully remove Hussien? The 9/11 attacks gave them an opportunity to proceed with their nefarious agenda by allowing them to use the tragedy of 9/11, the patriotism and fear that followed to convince a shell shocked nation that going to war was part of the fight against the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. They cherry picked dodgy intel and used intel from Iraqi defectors who had an agenda themselves to scare us into supporting the Dub's excellent adventure in Iraq.

I'm sure you don't mean to tell falsehoods, but no one is going to listen to someone who’s constantly pointing fingers at people without giving even good circumstantial proof. That’s why Kerry doesn’t make his position known.

To hell with Kerry, he along with the rest of the Senate and House didn't have the guts to question the Dub until after the fact.

Oatmeal · Post by **Oatmeal** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:54 pm

Whew, I thought you were going to say that I was no better than those Checkenhawk Neocons. In my opinion when you are going to wage a full scale war on a soveirn nation there is no room for mistakes, especially the magnitude of the mistakes the Dub made for his reasons. But I now don't really believe those were his reasons. I do bewlieve that the war was preordained by the Dub and his Chickenhawk Neocon Handlers. Why else would he stack his Cabinet with those whose main agenda prior to 9/11 was to forcefully remove Hussien? The 9/11 attacks gave them an opportunity to proceed with their nefarious agenda by allowing them to use the tragedy of 9/11, the patriotism and fear that followed to convince a shell shocked nation that going to war was part of the fight against the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. They cherry picked dodgy intel and used intel from Iraqi defectors who had an agenda themselves to scare us into supporting the Dub's excellent adventure in Iraq.

I'm seeing a lot of this “adventure if Iraq”. I’ll bet you think they were having fun watching their friends die, and their enemies killing them. Some adventure. Bush must have enjoyed reading the casualty lists and writing letters to parents who lost sons there. You know what I think? You can take your opinions and jam them down the toilet, which must be where you got them.

There’s a funny little fact you probably never knew: This war has been in the planning stages since 1991! If you sit down and perform the extremely complex mathematical problems, you will see that plans for the war started before Clinton was even sworn in. Clinton had power to attack, and yet he didn’t. He was told twice by the pentagon: “Mr. President, we have Usama Bin Laden in our sites! If you give us the go, we will kill him now.” The response? “We’re just not sure.” He got away; tissue box.

Get your brain in gear. Stop whining about a White House Conspiracy Theory and Presidential war mongering. Bush wouldn’t lie, because anyone with a brain slightly bigger than yours would know that eventually, the world would know about it. That means that he would lose a second term, and probably cause the Republicans to lose the next term after that. But I don’t think he’s that stupid, he sincerely thought that there were WMD.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:05 pm

Originally posted by Oatmeal
I'm seeing a lot of this “adventure if Iraq”. I’ll bet you think they were having fun watching their friends die, and their enemies killing them. Some adventure. Bush must have enjoyed reading the casualty lists and writing letters to parents who lost sons there.

Obviously that was a sacrifice the Dub was willing to make

Get your brain in gear. Stop whining about a White House Conspiracy Theory and Presidential war mongering. Bush wouldn’t lie, because anyone with a brain slightly bigger than yours would know that eventually, the world would know about it.

And we do now know about it. Of course that makes no difference to the Bush Apologists

That means that he would lose a second term, and probably cause the Republicans to lose the next term after that. But I don’t think he’s that stupid, he sincerely thought that there were WMD.

You know I don't think he's that stupid either..well at least Cheney and his handlers aren't that stupid. For all I know he could have been duped by them too. One things for certain, they couldn't have been more wrong if they tried

Oatmeal · Post by **Oatmeal** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:04 pm

In your entire post, you said nothing.

I'm finished arguing. If you want, you can look at facts and make a decision that corresponds to reality. But at this point, I can do nothing more for you. Later.