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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby psypher » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:49 am

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psypher wrote:Look around man, Trump's been burning down the entire country from the inside out.


I respectfully disagree. They say Trump is a sore loser (which he is) but those hypocrites, since the day Trump won the election in 2016, have been on a mission to attack him since even before taking the oath of office. They've encourage violence at every turn and encouraging people to be violent as well as verbally assault members of Congress in public. The Left and the media have created this shitshow and never let the guy do his job. He managed to do quite a bit for this country despite the Democrats talking about impeachment the day after Hillary conceded.

This is why we're in this situation, because now the Right will treat Biden with the same level of "respect" that Trump got.


He doesn't deserve any respect, he deserves prison time. The only thing he's managed to do is convince people like you that he actually did something good for this country. That mother fucker caused Georgia to go blue. So fuck him. Enjoy a splintered Republican party. Presidency, House and Senate, dream trifecta. Biden will probably give Trump the Presidential Medal of Freedom as a thank you. Better hope there's enough right leaning Democrats to help keep things from getting out of hand.

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby Losbot » Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:15 am

psypher wrote:He doesn't deserve any respect, he deserves prison time.


You don't have to like the person but you are expected to respect the position. We've seen past Presidents not be liked but the level of disrespect that this last President received was a bit much. Ass-hats like Griffin holding a severed head and people wishing to personally kill him? That's too much. Years ago, you'd have been jailed for that sort of shit. It's a threat. Now we let them get away with stuff, so as to not offend them or hurt their feelings.

It's one thing to have some fun and joke about things but it's another to say and do the things we witnessed these last 4 years. Problem is we're setting the bar lower so it'll now become the "norm" to act like immature children and if people don't get what they want, it's apparently acceptable to burn down cities?

Too many in this country are out of control, behaving like rotten brats. We need to start holding people accountable for their actions or it'll just keep getting worse.
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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby Key Keeper » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:57 am

Looks like someone missed trash day...

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby FlyingPenguin » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:57 am

There has been nonsense on both sides, but you cannot excuse away what happened the other day. I don't think he intended specifically to cause a riot, but the beast got out of control. He poured the gasoline, and he lit the match. He certainly was riling up the crowd to march on the capitol (he specifically told them to) with the intent of trying to coerce the congress, senate, and his own vice president to perform an act that they were legally incapable of doing.

Even if the crowd had peacefully marched on the Capitol, parked on the front lawn, and just yelled over bullhorns, you cannot escape the fact that a sitting President, egged a crowd of people, to intimidate the congress, and coerce his own Vice President to commit an illegal act. That is not normal. That should never be normal.

Believe whatever you want, but even the Republicans have had enough. Some of his own cabinet have had enough. Whatever good he's accomplished has been completely overshadowed by this. This will be what he'll be remembered for.

Let him go start his own party, because he is no Republican. HE Is the RINO. And he can take Ted Cruz and the other two-faced publicity hounding hacks with him. Republicans are supposed to be FOR state's rights, and FOR fiscal responsibility. I can get along just fine with real Republicans. I've voted for them.
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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby psypher » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:02 am

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psypher wrote:He doesn't deserve any respect, he deserves prison time.


You don't have to like the person but you are expected to respect the position. We've seen past Presidents not be liked but the level of disrespect that this last President received was a bit much. Ass-hats like Griffin holding a severed head and people wishing to personally kill him? That's too much. Years ago, you'd have been jailed for that sort of shit. It's a threat. Now we let them get away with stuff, so as to not offend them or hurt their feelings.

It's one thing to have some fun and joke about things but it's another to say and do the things we witnessed these last 4 years. Problem is we're setting the bar lower so it'll now become the "norm" to act like immature children and if people don't get what they want, it's apparently acceptable to burn down cities?

Too many in this country are out of control, behaving like rotten brats. We need to start holding people accountable for their actions or it'll just keep getting worse.


A bit ironic talking about respecting the position when the very man that is holding the office has no respect for it. If he himself has no respect for the office and what it means and that is the example that he shows, how do you expect others not to do the same? That standard starts with the President himself. Do you think appointing people to some of the highest levels of government and expecting loyalty to him and not the country or the rule of law is acceptable? That instilling doubt in our democracy and voting process is ok? Not just questioning it, but flat out lying about non-existent fraud? I'm not talking about asking for a recall because an election was close, or normal political responses like others have in the past. This is on a whole new level, declaring massive fraud across the board. This isn't some Alex Jones spouting out bullshit conspiracy theories, we're talking about the President of the United States. Calling state officials asking them to "find" votes? Saying the Vice President lacks courage for defying his orders to reject election results? Really? The President of the United States calling the Vice President a coward because he didn't want to help with his failed attempt at a coup? Inciting his people to riot in DC who then stormed through the Capitol, something that hasn't happened in over two centuries. Not only that, but with confederate flags which has never happened, not even during the Civil War. If the person at the highest position isn't held accountable for his actions, how do you expect others to be as well? Sorry, but the bar was dropped to the floor the day Trump was elected. And every day that his enablers ignored and overlooked everything he did pushed that bar deeper and deeper into the ground. If a person like that can hold the office of the President, then the position means nothing. This isn't a partisan issue, it's an American issue. He's never been fit to be President of the United States regardless of which political party was his flavor of the year.

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby FlyingPenguin » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:34 am

Has some good been done under his admin? Sure. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Pity he constantly shoots himself in the foot and shits on his own good news all the time. He can thank his son in law for most of the good work in the Middle East, if it holds up in the long run, just like Nixon can thank Kissinger for most of his foreign policy.

But that's fair. THAT could have been his legacy, but instead he's going to remembered as a sore loser who apparently never found the time to read the Constitution in the past four years (kind of like a Catholic Cardinal who never bother reading the Bible) or maybe he would know that 99% of Rudy's advice was bullshit.

And continues repeating the bullshit until his fanatics are convinced it's true. People are still ranting about the Dominion scanners when manual hand recounts show they jive perfectly with the machine counts, and yet even last week he's still talking about Dominion costing him half the votes in the state of Georgia, which is utter nonsense.

He could have kept the Senate. That would have been easy. All the Republicans needed was one seat, and Warnok should have been a fairly easy candidate to beat with all his baggage. But Trump had to make it all about him, and send mixed messages. Republicans should be marching outside the White House over that. That was on him. If he really cared about the party, and about conservative ideals, he would have done everything within his power to take at least one of those seats.
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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby Executioner » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:23 pm

The Wall Street Journal has a good piece:

Kim Strassel is a regular opinion writer for the Wall Street Journal and was generally pro Trump. Good piece in today’s issue.

A politician has to work hard to destroy a legacy and a future in a single day. President Donald J. Trump managed it.

By this Wednesday afternoon, media outlets had called both Georgia Senate runoffs for the Democratic candidates, handing Sen. Chuck Schumer the keys to that chamber. We now have a Democrat-controlled Washington. The Georgia news came as a mob of Trump supporters—egged on by the president himself—occupied the U.S. Capitol building. Now four people are dead, while aides and officials run for the exits.

It didn’t have to be this way. The president had every right—even an obligation, given the ad hoc changes to voting rules—to challenge state election results in court. But when those challenges failed (which every one did, completely), he had the opportunity to embrace his legacy, cement his accomplishments, and continue to play a powerful role in GOP politics.


Mr. Trump could have reveled in the mantle of the one-term disrupter—the man the electorate sent to Washington to deliver the message that it was tired of business as usual. He could have pointed out just how successful he was in that mission by stacking his cabinet with reformers, busting convention, and overseeing policy changes that astounded (and delighted) even many warrior conservatives.

The withdrawal from the Paris climate accord and the Iranian deal. The greatest tax simplification and reduction since Reagan. The largest deregulatory effort since—well, ever. Three Supreme Court justices and 54 appellate court judges. Drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve. The Jerusalem embassy. Criminal-justice reform. Opportunity zones. He could have noted that the greatest proof of just how much Democrats and the establishment feared his mission were the five years of investigations, hysterical allegations and “deep state” sabotage—which he survived.

Mostly, he could have explained that all this was at considerably heightened risk if Democrats win the Senate—and invested himself fully in Georgia. Every day needed to be about fundraising, rallying the troops, making clear to his supporters that the only way to preserve this legacy was to keep the Senate in GOP hands.

That isn’t what happened. Obviously. Following court losses, Mr. Trump, in his own words, devoted “125% of my energy” to his own grievances. He declared the Georgia Senate races “illegal and invalid,” discouraging voting. He actively undercut Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler with late-game demands for $2,000 stimulus checks and with his veto of a defense authorization bill that provided pay raises and support for Georgia’s military bases. His denial of the presidential results energized Democrats and depressed Republicans. Turnout in Trump counties lagged, while turnout in some Democratic areas nearly reached that of the November election.

Mr. Trump is leaving, and thanks to his final denial of reality, Mr. Schumer will now methodically erase his policy history. Democrats need only 51 votes to eliminate the Trump tax reform, 51 to use the Congressional Review Act to undo his final deregulations; 51 to wave through liberal judges to counter Mr. Trump’s picks. And this is before Mr. Biden gets busy reversing Trump policy by executive fiat, and assuming Democrats forbear from abolishing the legislative filibuster.

So that’s his legacy, largely gone. As for his future, Mr. Trump’s role in inflaming the Capitol mob has likely put paid to that, as well. Dedicated members of his administration are resigning. Longtime supporters in Congress are turning. Millions of Americans who for years were willing to tolerate, often even celebrate, Mr. Trump’s brash behavior in the pursuit of reform or good policy, are less amused by the wreckage he has visited on party and policy. And they’ll be unwilling to go there again in 2024.

Trump loyalists may well condemn anyone who speaks honestly of all this as RINOs or spineless Beltwayers who care nothing of “election fraud.” But to quote the incoming president, “C’mon, man.” It’s one thing to scorn a Mitt Romney. But many of the senators throwing up their hands are the ones who fearlessly rooted out the false Russia collusion accusations, who defended Mr. Trump through baseless impeachment proceedings, and who understand the need for voting reform. Many of the officials resigning are bold conservatives, attracted to an administration they knew would let them break china. They too are stunned, and demoralized, by the president’s decision to tank their work.

“We signed up for making America great again. We signed up for lower taxes and less regulation. The president has a long list of successes that we can be proud of. But all of that went away yesterday.” That was Mick Mulvaney talking to CNBC Thursday. Mr. Mulvaney, the tea-party supporter, founding member of the House Freedom caucus, and the onetime Trump chief of staff. Hardly an establishment weenie.

The pity is that Mr. Trump’s conflagration will mostly burn the Americans he went to Washington to help. They will bear the higher taxes, the higher costs of regulation, the higher unemployment, the loss of freedoms. America became less great this week. And that’s fully on the guy at the top.

Write to kim@wsj.com.

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby FlyingPenguin » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:00 pm

And predictably, the beast starts eating it's own. Graham doesn't deserve to get harassed at the airport, but I suppose there is irony here that this is the monster he helped Donald Trump create.

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby psypher » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:40 pm

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby Executioner » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:19 pm

Same with the left:

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby psypher » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:32 pm

Executioner wrote:Same with the left:

You do realize I linked an image of neo-nazi and you're somehow trying to show something about a group that would be on the opposite spectrum right? One side wants to kill jews and black people, the other um, doesn't?

Also considering the shirt he's wearing, this might not be the time for some typical whataboutism.

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby psypher » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:58 pm

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lol yea the wife showed that to me the other night.

In recent news, Democrats are finally agreeing that Trump actually did Make America Great Again and are starting to wear MAGA hats themselves. Trump got them the Presidency, the House AND the Senate :)

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Re: "This is Banana Republic Shit"

Postby Key Keeper » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:07 pm

Turn about is fair play.

Treat others how you want to be treated. Its really that simple, yet 90% of the left, just cant get onboard with that.

And ANTIFA is a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION....if you deny that, then there is not much hope for you.


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