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Normalicy...I need your help

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:57 am
by DaMaN
I have a 2000 GMC Sonoma 2 Door and it has 6.5" - 6.75" door speakers (Per Crutchfield) I want to buy some component speakers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024JARH6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A2TGMCZ4O2P52Z)

Dimensions

External Diameter Tweeter (in) 2
External Diameter Tweeter (mm) 51
External Diameter Woofer (in) 6-1/4
External Diameter Woofer (mm) 159
Mounting Cutout Diameter Tweeter (in) 1-7/8
Mounting Cutout Diameter Tweeter (mm) 47
Mounting Cutout Diameter Woofer (in) 5-1/4
Mounting Cutout Diameter Woofer (mm) 133
Mounting Depth Tweeter (in) 11/16
Mounting Depth Tweeter (mm) 17
Mounting Depth Woofer (in) 2-1/16
Mounting Depth Woofer (mm) 52


but am unsure if the woofer would fit my door. Do you know of any online resource that I can reference to check without having to pull the panel off??

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:04 pm
by eGoCeNTRoNiX
I'm sure Mickey will chime in, but I would think that you'll need to create/buy a mounting baffle based on the size of the woofer.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:19 pm
by normalicy
Well, there aren't too many resources for the public. The biggest challenge is finding out if the depth will work. Most speaker manufacturers are aware of this though & try to keep things slim. 2-1/16" is fairly shallow, so you should be good.

Here's the only info I could find for ya (which just confirms things for ya):
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/ste ... /1007.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/gmc-sono ... akers.html

I'd throw the tweeters into the 4x6 openings if I were you. Just make a bracket for them with strip steel to pan the speaker openings.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:38 pm
by DaMaN
Thanks guys, Mickey, I already have the stock 4x6's in there, should i keep them, replace them or do as you suggest?

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:45 pm
by normalicy
I'd pull them. Otherwise, they'll color the sound of your brand new speakers. Are you powering them off of a factory radio or something else? If it's factory, things will be a bit complex, because they may not run a full range signal to the doors & so you may have to do something funny to get the tweeters to do anything.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:30 pm
by DaMaN
I have an aftermarket radio (Kenwood KDC-152) see this link:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KDC152/Kenwood-KDC-152.html?tp=5684

I'm using the factory wiring for the speakers

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:39 pm
by DaMaN
Mickey, if you have some speakers for sale to fit the doors and dash 4x6's PM me with some prices.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:07 pm
by normalicy
Here's what I've got (all prices shipped for ya):
Crystal CPE-60 6.5" component Set with Crossovers & Tweeters 150w max $100
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2323 ... ntsni5.jpg

Kenwood KFC-P707 6 3/4" Component set (brand new in box, never used) $110
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6463/f ... ldvj6.jpeg

Kicker KS6.2 6 1/2" Component Speakers $80
READ THE REVIEWS HERE
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6144/x2065ks62.jpg

Pioneer TS-A1702C 6 3/4" Component Speakers (2 sets in boxes & 1 set in styrofoam from box) $80/set
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6176 ... oflash.jpg

If you want actual 4x6" speakers & 6 3/4" speakers, then I'll have to throw a different list at ya.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:05 pm
by DaMaN
What do you suggest? Both sets of speakers or just the separates

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:31 pm
by normalicy
I suggest ditching the 4x6" speakers & throwing a tweeter in their location. And throwing 6 3/4" speakers in the doors of course. I'd run new wires straight from the radio for everything unless you can verify that the current ones don't have anything in between them.

As for which speakers, well, I like the sound quality of the Crystals & Pioneers the most personally. The Kickers & Pioneers aren't so potent with bass, so if you don't have a sub, I'd go with the Crystals or Kenwoods.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:17 am
by DaMaN
Ok, give me a couple of weeks, my PSU in my main rig just shit the bed and i have to get that sorted first, thanks.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:20 pm
by normalicy
No problem, just let me know.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:06 pm
by DaMaN
ok, back from business travel. Mickey I am going to send you a PM, I am also thinking about getting a sub & amp in there some how. I really need your guidance.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:07 pm
by normalicy
Welcome back, I just sent a PM.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:55 pm
by DaMaN
Just an update, I bought a subwoofer, set of components and wire from normalicy earlier this month. I have been busy with other household duties and work but finally got around to starting the process today. I have removed the door panels and removed the factory 6.75" door speakers (talk about crap). I also removed the factory 4x6" speakers in the upper dash (even crappier!). I am trying to figure out where is the best place to mount the component crossover. I read that the proximity to the speakers is important. My question is should they be closer to the woofer or the tweeter? I am thinking of mounting them in the pod where the 4x6" speakers were housed along with the tweeter. Any advice?