This is on my laptop. It runs automatically each Friday. My laptop has a SSD for drive C, and I have 2 regular hard drives for D (500gb) and E (1tb). My games that I play are on drive D and I noticed it was taking a lot longer to load than it did say 4 weeks ago. I ran Windows 10 defrag on drive D which is "optimize", and took less than 5 minutes to complete. It still felt sluggish. So I installed Defraggler to see what it would find, and sure enough, the drive was 40% fragmented. Took over 2 hours for it to complete.
I think the Windows 10 defrag for a SSD is fine because it runs the trim command, but for regular spinning hard drives, it sucks and does not de-fragment the drive correctly. Has anyone else noticed that? I'm also going to try the other free one Auslogics.
Defrag in Windows 10 sucks
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Re: Defrag in Windows 10 sucks
Well, to be fair, the Windows defrag has one setting, which is the fastest defrag possible: moving as few blocks as it has to to do it in the shortest time. The Windows defrag has never been very sophisticated.
I suspect that your drives are also getting sluggish from what Steve Gibson likes to call "Bit Rot". You probably had some old, weak sectors that haven't been overwritten in a long time and are getting harder to read. Running the more aggressive defrag in Defraggler re-wrote a lot more sectors, which refreshed them.
This is why I run Spinrite on any drive I can, once a year, to refresh them.
Had the same experience on my 2015 Surface Pro 3 tablet. It's been getting very sluggish, and I suspected the SSD needed a refresh pass. Sadly you can't run Spinrite on it because it's UEFI only with no legacy BIOS fallback (waiting impatiently for Spinrite 7!!!), so I did the same as you. Downloaded the Auslogics defragger I think it was, and ran that on an aggressive relocation mode. Being SSD aware, it warned me several times I shouldn't be doing this to an SSD, but after running for an hour, the tablet runs like it's brand new.
I suspect that your drives are also getting sluggish from what Steve Gibson likes to call "Bit Rot". You probably had some old, weak sectors that haven't been overwritten in a long time and are getting harder to read. Running the more aggressive defrag in Defraggler re-wrote a lot more sectors, which refreshed them.
This is why I run Spinrite on any drive I can, once a year, to refresh them.
Had the same experience on my 2015 Surface Pro 3 tablet. It's been getting very sluggish, and I suspected the SSD needed a refresh pass. Sadly you can't run Spinrite on it because it's UEFI only with no legacy BIOS fallback (waiting impatiently for Spinrite 7!!!), so I did the same as you. Downloaded the Auslogics defragger I think it was, and ran that on an aggressive relocation mode. Being SSD aware, it warned me several times I shouldn't be doing this to an SSD, but after running for an hour, the tablet runs like it's brand new.
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Re: Defrag in Windows 10 sucks
Yeah believe it or not, I actually defragged my SSD on my windows 7 rig. Runs a lot better. That SSD has been in there for at least 3 years or so.
So when is Spinrite 7 going to be released??? I've been waiting for it for years. Can't find anything on his site as to the status.
So when is Spinrite 7 going to be released??? I've been waiting for it for years. Can't find anything on his site as to the status.
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Also, I was going to install Auslogic defrag, but it contains a few PUPs. It was flagged by Malwarebytes.
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Re: Defrag in Windows 10 sucks
Defraggler is fine. It's been around forever. I think maybe I used the free trial of O & O. Defrag. Not sure.
Progress report on his forums here: https://forums.grc.com/threads/tracking ... gress.104/
Roadmap document here: https://www.grc.com/miscfiles/GRC-Devel ... oadmap.pdf
He just got married so he might be out of the loop for a couple of weeks.
6.1 will be released first. Much MUCH faster, able to handle larger drives, but no UEFI, NVME or USB support (I think) until 7.0
Progress report on his forums here: https://forums.grc.com/threads/tracking ... gress.104/
Roadmap document here: https://www.grc.com/miscfiles/GRC-Devel ... oadmap.pdf
He just got married so he might be out of the loop for a couple of weeks.
6.1 will be released first. Much MUCH faster, able to handle larger drives, but no UEFI, NVME or USB support (I think) until 7.0
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Re: Defrag in Windows 10 sucks
Thanks for those links. So his last reply was in March so hopefully he's close to 6.1 being final.
Re: Defrag in Windows 10 sucks
Should be fine to exempt that folder. I did that. I just installed Auslogics as well. I hadn't used it in ages. I should run it on all the drives of my gaming rig.Executioner wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:28 pm Also, I was going to install Auslogic defrag, but it contains a few PUPs. It was flagged by Malwarebytes.
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