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Looks like the DVD just plain died. I tried several different configs with no success, but when I popped my old burner in, that detected just fine. Drat. The tray opens, so it's getting power. Any other testing I can do or do I start shopping for a new DVD drive?
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Pop it into another machine
When all else fails, put the device into another computer, and see if it works with that machine. 
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Sounds like a good deal
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Did that include shipping/handling/taxes too? Not a bad deal at all! I suggest you use some of that money you saved to get good RAM, as in 2400 DDR CAS 2 level stuff. Then you can overclock that system real good....
Did that include shipping/handling/taxes too? Not a bad deal at all! I suggest you use some of that money you saved to get good RAM, as in 2400 DDR CAS 2 level stuff. Then you can overclock that system real good....
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DirkBelig, I've read posts where some have gotten notes in with their board telling them to use cd/dvd on ide 1 and hd's on ide 2 for best results. Some have said this fixed problems for them. As far as the dvd itself it might be a seperate problem. I'd replace the cable and play with the jumpers, some devices don't like being slaves or set them both to cable select. You might also try changing bios between auto/detect and none (for cd-dvd only)
When do you use cable select?
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I've never used cable select when setting jumpers on IDE devices. Master or Slave have always worked for me. When do you use cable select, and do you need a special cable? Do you need a special IDE port or anything else that isn't ordinary?
By the way, I heard that the Athlon 2000+ was released in Japan yesterday. That's the CPU I want, so you know I'm itching to get my hands on one. Today I picked up a 60 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM Ultra ATA/100 hard drive for $129 (Best Buy sale); I've decided to go without RAID initially, and use the extra IDE ports to keep only one IDE device per port. I plan on using the hard drive on IDE1, the zip drive on IDE2, and the CD-RW drive on IDE3. I still need a video card - can anybody recommend a good deal on a Geforce3 or Geforce3 Ti 500 card?
I've never used cable select when setting jumpers on IDE devices. Master or Slave have always worked for me. When do you use cable select, and do you need a special cable? Do you need a special IDE port or anything else that isn't ordinary?
By the way, I heard that the Athlon 2000+ was released in Japan yesterday. That's the CPU I want, so you know I'm itching to get my hands on one. Today I picked up a 60 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM Ultra ATA/100 hard drive for $129 (Best Buy sale); I've decided to go without RAID initially, and use the extra IDE ports to keep only one IDE device per port. I plan on using the hard drive on IDE1, the zip drive on IDE2, and the CD-RW drive on IDE3. I still need a video card - can anybody recommend a good deal on a Geforce3 or Geforce3 Ti 500 card?
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get the MSI GF3 Ti200 from newegg...
overclocks like crazy... mine runs at 240/520
you can pick up some 60GB 5400rpm ata100 hdd's at compgeeks right now for only $81 each for a cheap raid setup...
i ordered 3
overclocks like crazy... mine runs at 240/520
you can pick up some 60GB 5400rpm ata100 hdd's at compgeeks right now for only $81 each for a cheap raid setup...
i ordered 3
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I checked the MSI web site; boy do they have numerous video cards. I'm going to watch the prices of the Ti200 and Ti500 series of cards for the next few weeks. I don't need it until I can get that processor, so the longer I wait, the lower the price should be.
Regarding the 60 GB 5400 RPM drives, I decided to stick with the single 60 GB 7200 RPM drive for now. My concern is reading game levels quickly, and from what I have read, I can actually do slightly better with the single drive than with a RAID configuration.
Does anybody have an answer for the cable select jumper setting? Why is this necessary?
I checked the MSI web site; boy do they have numerous video cards. I'm going to watch the prices of the Ti200 and Ti500 series of cards for the next few weeks. I don't need it until I can get that processor, so the longer I wait, the lower the price should be.
Regarding the 60 GB 5400 RPM drives, I decided to stick with the single 60 GB 7200 RPM drive for now. My concern is reading game levels quickly, and from what I have read, I can actually do slightly better with the single drive than with a RAID configuration.
Does anybody have an answer for the cable select jumper setting? Why is this necessary?
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cable select
I didn't say it was necessary, but have seen it work when no other setting would. DVD-Roms and some burners seem to be picky about other hardware they reside with.
Picked up the original Geforce3...
As I stated in another post, I went for the Vision Tek Geforce3 today, as I was at a computer show, and it was only $190 (cash, including tax). That seemed like a pretty good deal. The Geforce3 Ti200's were going for around $175; I might have gotten one at $165 with cash, plus tax.
I asked an experienced computer builder friend of mine about the cable select issue. He has seen that setting for a number of years, but he has never used it. I thought it required a special cable, and I decided to research this issue further. Here is the scoop, from a Maxtor web page dated 1998:
There are two implementations of the IDE/EIDE interface. The standard definition uses Master/Slave definitions for the IDE devices on the cable. The alternate definition is referred to as Cable Select and requires a special IDE Cable Select ribbon cable and the Cable Select jumper definition on the IDE device.
The standard ribbon cable used is limited to a maximum cable length of 18 inches and has two or three 40 pin connectors. This cable is referred to as a parallel cable and IDE devices may be connected any where on the cable. One of the connectors is attached to the IDE port on the mother board or interface card and the remaining connector(s) are available for the IDE devices.
The Cable Select ribbon cable used is limited to a maximum cable length of 18 inches and has two or three 40 pin connectors. The Cable Select ribbon cable has a different pin definition from the standard cable. The location of the IDE device on the cable determines if it is the bootable (master) device or the non-bootable (slave) device. The connectors are identified as to their function. The cable must be correctly connected to the IDE/EIDE port on the mother board or interface card and the IDE devices to the appropriate connector for them to function correctly.
Systems Using Cable Select
IMPORTANT - Most systems do not use this feature. Unless you are sure that your computer system supports Cable Select, do not set up the drive with this feature enabled. Refer to the system's users documentation or contact the system manufacturer to verify if your system uses this function. Manufacturers know to use Cable Select on some of their systems are Compaq and Dell.
Maxtor hard drives support Cable Select. The Cable Select method of drive identification allows the system to identify the bootable (master) and non-bootable (slave) IDE devices based upon the position (connector) the IDE device is attached to on the interface (ribbon) cable. A special IDE Cable Select ribbon cable is required for systems using the Cable Select feature. The ribbon cable included in Maxtor kits is a standard IDE cable and cannot be used in systems that use Cable Select. Systems that use Cable Select do not support the standard Master/Slave definitions described above and the standard IDE ribbon cable cannot be used on these systems. If your system supports this feature, refer to the system user's manual or contact the system manufacturer for specific procedures for installing hard drives.
As you can see, it does require a special cable. We have an old Compaq (300 MHz Pentium II, model 4660) that might be using this method.:burger
I asked an experienced computer builder friend of mine about the cable select issue. He has seen that setting for a number of years, but he has never used it. I thought it required a special cable, and I decided to research this issue further. Here is the scoop, from a Maxtor web page dated 1998:
There are two implementations of the IDE/EIDE interface. The standard definition uses Master/Slave definitions for the IDE devices on the cable. The alternate definition is referred to as Cable Select and requires a special IDE Cable Select ribbon cable and the Cable Select jumper definition on the IDE device.
The standard ribbon cable used is limited to a maximum cable length of 18 inches and has two or three 40 pin connectors. This cable is referred to as a parallel cable and IDE devices may be connected any where on the cable. One of the connectors is attached to the IDE port on the mother board or interface card and the remaining connector(s) are available for the IDE devices.
The Cable Select ribbon cable used is limited to a maximum cable length of 18 inches and has two or three 40 pin connectors. The Cable Select ribbon cable has a different pin definition from the standard cable. The location of the IDE device on the cable determines if it is the bootable (master) device or the non-bootable (slave) device. The connectors are identified as to their function. The cable must be correctly connected to the IDE/EIDE port on the mother board or interface card and the IDE devices to the appropriate connector for them to function correctly.
Systems Using Cable Select
IMPORTANT - Most systems do not use this feature. Unless you are sure that your computer system supports Cable Select, do not set up the drive with this feature enabled. Refer to the system's users documentation or contact the system manufacturer to verify if your system uses this function. Manufacturers know to use Cable Select on some of their systems are Compaq and Dell.
Maxtor hard drives support Cable Select. The Cable Select method of drive identification allows the system to identify the bootable (master) and non-bootable (slave) IDE devices based upon the position (connector) the IDE device is attached to on the interface (ribbon) cable. A special IDE Cable Select ribbon cable is required for systems using the Cable Select feature. The ribbon cable included in Maxtor kits is a standard IDE cable and cannot be used in systems that use Cable Select. Systems that use Cable Select do not support the standard Master/Slave definitions described above and the standard IDE ribbon cable cannot be used on these systems. If your system supports this feature, refer to the system user's manual or contact the system manufacturer for specific procedures for installing hard drives.
As you can see, it does require a special cable. We have an old Compaq (300 MHz Pentium II, model 4660) that might be using this method.:burger
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I am replacing my MSI 6380 pro2 RU MB too with the dragon plus. It should be here tommorow. I was wondering what kind of problems you had with your 6380. I had some weird error messages and it would keep the date right. I thought maybee cmos batery but all of my other settings are staying the same even the minutes and the date are perfect just the hours reset to 3 hours earlyer every time. It may happen over nite or it could take a week. Also the usb 2.0 0ption does not work with win xp, even though the board is on the desighned for xp list. Any coments?Originally posted by outfits
Mines been running for 24 hours so far and it smokes. I tried an MSI 6380 Pro 2 but had nothing but problems that only got worse. I run RC5 so system is on 24/7 @ 99% CPU, my keyrate is 2.2 times
faster than my P111 @ 800.
the onboard sound and lan. Front USB is nice too, I think you'll be happy with it.
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I am replacing my MSI 6380 pro2 RU MB too with the dragon plus. It should be here tommorow. I was wondering what kind of problems you had with your 6380. I had some weird error messages and it would keep the date right. I thought maybee cmos batery but all of my other settings are staying the same even the minutes and the date are perfect just the hours reset to 3 hours earlyer every time. It may happen over nite or it could take a week. Also the usb 2.0 0ption does not work with win xp, even though the board is on the desighned for xp list. Any coments?
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winxp doesn't have usb 2.0 support by default...
there is however, a patch...
it's currently at RC2... do a search on it in the forums and you should find a link or something
there is however, a patch...
it's currently at RC2... do a search on it in the forums and you should find a link or something
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The new system came to life at 1:15 PM today...
Well, it came to life, but I'm having a real hard time getting either W98 or W2K loaded on this thing. I have one 60 GB drive plugged into IDE #1, with the CDRW as a slave to it. The other IDE#2 has a zip 100 installed. I have no devices connected to the IDE #3 or #4 ports, the jumper is set for non-RAID, and the bios has those ports (master and slave) set to disabled. My W98 and W2K setup programs are choking for some reason. I can boot with a floppy, I have partitioned and formatted the hard drive into two logical drives, and the temperature is about 44C for the CPU (Using a Kanie Type-W massive heatsink with quiet 60mm fans on it). I verified that I have properly unlocked the multiplier, as I could select 13.0 in the bios, and it booted to the A prompt just fine. I did go back to Auto (12.5) though, until I can get the operating system installed. If you didn't know it, I'm using the Athlon XP 2000+, which arrived yesterday.
Should I flash the bios before banging my head against the wall? It's only been 3-4 hours since I've been dealing with the operating system install....
Should I flash the bios before banging my head against the wall? It's only been 3-4 hours since I've been dealing with the operating system install....
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