Whats the Deal with TrollOCP?

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Wed Jun 05, 2002 11:58 pm

I was at AT and seen a thread where a bunch of peeps had been banned at HardOCP. So i went there and seen a whole lotta people with banned by their names. Did ole Mr Asshole lose it and just start banning everyone and anyone and whats the deal with the troll hunters gettin' banned. They provide a free service and the asshole bans them... he's a fvckin idiot if you ask me...

SC60 · Post by **SC60** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 12:55 am

I can't even register at Hardforums to look for myself :/
And I'm not going to purchase an actuall POP3 account just for some forums, when there are other, better forums out there.

Fu Manchu · Post by **Fu Manchu** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 5:24 am

Ok, Here is the a basic over view of what happened over there lol.

Something happened that the people at trollhunters.com and heatware.com did not like .. I mean it was something really bad lol .. so the people at trollhunters.com said they will no longer give service to any of the people at [H] and heatware.com said they same .. so people started to get wild over there about this and then start talking shizen about [H] and i guess some one got a little pissy lol

I think heat23 got banned there for being accused as a troll or something (note: I am not sure of this)

But from what i have seen this is pretty much the story.

Post by **TonyH** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:01 am

Being banned there hasn't hurt my feelings.

And I wouldn't bother with trying to look over there, they deleted everything anyway.

blade · Post by **blade** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:28 am

Basically there was one person there (banned at anands and pca) who kept giving bogus evals to another person over a bad deal. But he couldn't stop with just one, he ended up giving over 200 bad evals! heat merely stated to him in a thread there where it <b>was being discussed</b> that if he does that again he wil be banned. If anyone read the thread then it was clear heat was saying he'd be banned from heatware, not ocp of course.

But an admin there who must of not read the whole thread assumed he meant banning one from ocp, so he rather bad mouthed heat and threatened to ban him. Then some others including trollhunters just spoke the facts of what heat clearly meant and mentioned the fact of how many trolls are allowed yet here they threaten heat from heatware and for a misinterpreted reason.

So it ended up being an arguement from that admin to anyone defending heat and he simply deleted any posts that made him look bad and banned heat and several trollhunters in the process. Yes they were aggressive in defending heat but did so to try and get the point across of what heat meant, a point that went over the head of that admin and he seemed to not care about the facts. Instead of admitting he was wrong, he just hit the ban button.

We never get any assistance from there anyway in regards to any info like ip's on a possible bad trader (we use to months ago), and that is their perogative. But we still tried to do what we could when any members there asked us for help, now we will stop that. Especially after this crap. It's almost impossible to help anyway if you do not have access to any info.

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:36 am

That forum has always been the place where the punks hang out at anyways... I seen a thread with that punk that gave 200 negs to that one guy and he still ain't banned over there... Nice to see a site of that size not give a rats ass about its members...

Post by **TonyH** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:23 am

Originally posted by PreDatoR
I seen a thread with that punk that gave 200 negs to that one guy and he still ain't banned over there... Nice to see a site of that size not give a rats ass about its members...

I think it's funny that they ban someone like myself but I look through the members list and found that Tommy4337 is still a member.

Fu Manchu · Post by **Fu Manchu** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:41 am

makes you wonder if the site is really ran by paulson :tongue

Hipnotic_Tranz · Post by **Hipnotic_Tranz** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 10:33 am

the *only* thing the site is good for is case modding info. I hardly post there though because a lot of the people are dumbshits

redrum · Post by **redrum** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 1:07 pm

Yes my fellow comrades, Mr. Cool Kyle himself and the Cool Kid gang decided to ban me and a lot of other people for pointing out bad traders. By not removing all these bad traders, Kyle clearing shows that he supports them. Many people are speculating if Kyle and Zilla are close buds, because why the

would Kyle ban Heat23 and many Trollhunters for pointing out that Zilla is by far the most immature trader I've ever witnessed. My buddy, Putz was the first to get banned, and I will quickly followed in trying to stick up for him. It is kind of funny, because we were using 100% fact and no offensive language at all. No swearing or anything like that, just laying down 100% fact and Mr. Cool Kyle apparently knows that he is 100% wrong and the only response possible to that is to permantly shut us up on that forum. I just find it kind of funny how much of a career suicide Kyle is doing by banning Heat23 and the TrollHunters. Definately is very humorous. I always wanted to know what it would be like when trolls trade with trolls. That must be a real joke what is going down in [H] now. I can only imagine...

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 1:20 pm

the only thing his forums are good for is the pictures of moded cases and case mod ideas. besides that. NADA! Bannedtech is better then that place...and that is comming from ME!

Greg

Lmandrake · Post by **Lmandrake** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:13 pm

I never liked trading there and stopped trying a while ago. This just confirms my suspicions about the caliber of people trading over there.

Socalgal · Post by **Socalgal** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 2:58 pm

Indeed, I posted (once I was able to get in and register) to David Jungle, the mod there, that CIWS grossly misunderstood Heat's statement. Heat meant that he would ban zilla from heatware.com due to his blatant spamming and abuse of heatware to the tune of ±200 evals. Heat did not mean that he was going to ban zilla from HOCP, and this was repeated to them more than once by others, as well.

Even though this was pointed out to the mods and admins, and they were asked to check the posts that they had deleted (if they had saved them) to verify this, they instead just deleted more posts, and banned heat23 and Trollhunters.

I have, on more than one occasion, tried to PM and email 3 mods in their traders forum, and every time I've gotten a "disabled" message back from their board. So, if I can't contact them privately and my posts are deleted and my IP is banned, it doesn't seem to me that communication is high on their list of priorities. Seems to me they're more about shutting people up who don't fit into their version of the truth.

It's obvious to me that the admins / mods there are either unwilling or unable to hear the truth about this, and do not care to reasonably do so. It's a shame because there will, no doubt, be victims over there we won't be able to help.

It's impossible to reason with unreasonable and closed minds.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:09 pm

Hey maybe someone should Email Puto and tell him that Stank Trolls are allowed over at Hardon OCP now.

Isn't York still a Mod there? I've dealt with him and he was a great trader and a real good guy. I wonder why he still associates with Pugsly Bennet and the rest of the stanks there?

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:38 pm

Yea, york is a mod there, I have messaged him on ocasion about nexus_7 being banned but no response. Its disapointing to see how it has changed there. Also, WHY on EARTH do they disable Emailing there? It makes NO sence to me at all. all it does is promot Thiefage.

Greg