War Is Hell
One of the most horrible things that mankind has had to face down
through the centuries is the prospect of having to go to war.
Nobody wants war, especially the men and women who wear the uniforms
and have to do the actual fighting. They don’t join the military
because they want to go to war, they join because they want to serve
their country, in the most honorable way possible, the prospect of
laying down their lives for it.
When I hear statements like the one made by the idiot professor
at Columbia University about wanting to see the U.S.A. defeated in Iraq
it makes me want to throw up.
When I watch the Centcom briefing and hear the asinine questions asked
by the international press corp it makes me wonder why they don’t just
stay at home and listen to the news. Some of which is actually
reported by responsible journalists.
Where are the questions about how many tongues Saddam had cut out
today, how may people he ran through the plastic shredder, how many
human shields were shot in the back, how many children he tortured, how
many women raped?
Why do they only ask questions about civilian casualties and things of
that nature trying to make our forces look like the bad guys?
Why do the networks always run the bad news over and over?
They know full well that Saddam Hussein has killed a thousand times
more of his people on purpose that our troops will ever kill accidentally.
Why don’t they show his atrocities over and over?
Why don’t they admit that all the Middle East terrorists are after the
same thing, whether they are Palestinian, Iraqi or whatever? What
about the four thousand suicide bombers the Palestinians claim to have
sent into the Iraq? Is that not proof enough of collusion?
Why don’t they show us the bombing of the Trade Towers and the Pentagon
to remind us of the inhuman monsters we’re fighting?
Our men and women in the military have their hands full fighting
the evil in Iraq, they shouldn’t have to even give a second thought to
the traitorous professor or a biased media.
That’s our job, John Q. Citizen.
So here goes. I know that a lot of the troops deployed in Iraq have
computers and online capabilities. I want to pass this heartfelt
opinion on to you.
I have heard from thousands of American citizens and we are just as
dismayed as you by the news coverage of this war. Even the polls
reflect the opinions of the American people to be overwhelmingly in
favor of what you are doing over there.
Stay the course, get the job done, and don’t worry about what the
mainstream media says.
You know which channels to watch and which ones to avoid. You know
which newspapers are left wing and which ones are fair.
I hope and pray that you’ll soon be coming home and when you do you’ll
leave behind you a better place.
No amount of spinning or bending of the news can keep the truth from
coming out. No matter what they say about collateral damage or
civilian casualties, you know in your heart that you are actually
saving thousands of innocent lives.
No matter what they say about destruction and suffering you know in
your heart that you are actually alleviating suffering.
And no matter what they say you know in your heart that you went to
Iraq not for oil,not to conquer, but to liberate.
And you know what, all real Americans know it in our hearts too.
Pray for our troops.
What do you think?
God Bless America
Charlie Daniels
Charlie says it's not about the oil , good read here
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devil went down to georgia and got his ass kicked there
then he setup shop in iraq and he's getting his ass kicked again...
then he setup shop in iraq and he's getting his ass kicked again...
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, and the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn`t want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, Dick, and Colon... Need I say more?"
- Chris Rock
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"War never solved anything... Except for slavery, Facism, Nazism, and creating the USA..."
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"War never solved anything... Except for slavery, Facism, Nazism, and creating the USA..."
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Charlie missed the draft.Never served.
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.
Here's a good one I saw the other day.
A lady was holding a "Pro-War/ Support our troops" sign. On the top, it had in big letters 'STOP PROTESTING' My Son is Fighting for your rights. WTF was that supposed to mean??
I like some of Charlie Daniels ' music and I will continue to listen to it regardless of his political outlook ,however, I'm not asking him to my picnic on the 4th.
Bill
p.s. he wishes he had the appeal the dix/chix have and because of the constant rant's from turds like him they now sell more records abroad than ever before....Good job!
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.
Here's a good one I saw the other day.
A lady was holding a "Pro-War/ Support our troops" sign. On the top, it had in big letters 'STOP PROTESTING' My Son is Fighting for your rights. WTF was that supposed to mean??
I like some of Charlie Daniels ' music and I will continue to listen to it regardless of his political outlook ,however, I'm not asking him to my picnic on the 4th.
Bill
p.s. he wishes he had the appeal the dix/chix have and because of the constant rant's from turds like him they now sell more records abroad than ever before....Good job!
Charlie missed the draft.Never served.
So what are you saying ? Anyone that hasn't been in the services is unqualified to support out troops and America ?
Exactly which part of this "sounds like crap" to you ? Maybe you should have served as a human shield in Iraq .
he wishes he had the appeal the dix/chix have and because of the constant rant's from turds like him they now sell more records abroad than ever before....Good job!
Are you just dense or what ? Put down that crack pipe !!
Look here, brain drain. I think you missed it. Charlie Daniels is SUPPORTING our troops AND our government. That is GOOD. So what if he never served? A lot of people never served. Some never got the chance. It's not like he DODGED the draft, like Klin-ton.Originally posted by Tomuchtime
Charlie missed the draft.Never served.
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.
Here's a good one I saw the other day.
A lady was holding a "Pro-War/ Support our troops" sign. On the top, it had in big letters 'STOP PROTESTING' My Son is Fighting for your rights. WTF was that supposed to mean??
I like some of Charlie Daniels ' music and I will continue to listen to it regardless of his political outlook ,however, I'm not asking him to my picnic on the 4th.
Bill
p.s. he wishes he had the appeal the dix/chix have and because of the constant rant's from turds like him they now sell more records abroad than ever before....Good job!
And you don't understand what that sign meant? Are you just slow? It clearly means that anti-war protesting is demoralizing for our troops, and while it is our right, the people who are doing it, are clearly uninformed in world politics. Are you just trying to be funny, in saying that "Hey this lady is saying "Stop protesting" but there she is with a sign?
Are you a commie supporter of the dixie whores? If so, I wish you would get the hell out of the country. Anyone that blasts our President on foreign soil is not an American. Sure, it might be their right to do it, because our country is so great, but why would you not back the government? How can you not support the government, yet take full advantage of its country?
It sounds like you are totally uninformed, and have Charlie Daniels confused with that liberal commie, Martin Sheen. I urge you to inform yourself of the truth, and change your thinking.
Larry
To quote another member from another thread in this forum:
These quotes, as quotes sometimes are, taken out of context. I apologize to the author for that and probably don't need to explain that his views are more consistent with Mr. Daniels.
Apparently, being a celebrity makes you qualified to offer an opinion if you say the right things.
These celebs can say what they want. I have the right not to support them or it, especially when its so ill-considered.
Funny, these celebrities and others must expect people just to shake their heads in agreement like a zombie. Sorry, that's not the way it works.
These Hollyweird types think their views are more important than the common folk.
These quotes, as quotes sometimes are, taken out of context. I apologize to the author for that and probably don't need to explain that his views are more consistent with Mr. Daniels.
Apparently, being a celebrity makes you qualified to offer an opinion if you say the right things.
Maybe you should have served as a human shield in Iraq .
My Gawd! How come you didn't think of that toomuch? :;
Very well put <b>LTrain</b>.
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Well,
I't reads diffrent to me when I look at the tv and see all of these has-beens like Dennis Miller(what -6 times now?) on the Tonight Show that were wash-ups and now that there is a war on they quickly jump on the bandwagon waving thier flags to the tune that pays the most. War is hell and my opinion is that it's a last resort - After
Diplomacy in the honest. But I guess it's easier to get some pub's smashing a fellow musician in the limelight.
Human shield? Your missing my point.
I don't like Saddam nor do I sympathize
with the regime in Iraq. It's an issue that should have been delt with before the Regan tenure. When I read scripts like Charlies I feel bad because I honestly belive he's a good person,the truth is that he's been lied to and belives it himself.
I't reads diffrent to me when I look at the tv and see all of these has-beens like Dennis Miller(what -6 times now?) on the Tonight Show that were wash-ups and now that there is a war on they quickly jump on the bandwagon waving thier flags to the tune that pays the most. War is hell and my opinion is that it's a last resort - After
Diplomacy in the honest. But I guess it's easier to get some pub's smashing a fellow musician in the limelight.
Human shield? Your missing my point.
I don't like Saddam nor do I sympathize
with the regime in Iraq. It's an issue that should have been delt with before the Regan tenure. When I read scripts like Charlies I feel bad because I honestly belive he's a good person,the truth is that he's been lied to and belives it himself.
It's an issue that should have been delt with before the Regan tenure. When I read scripts like Charlies I feel bad because I honestly belive he's a good person,the truth is that he's been lied to and belives it himself.
OK , let's say you're right , it should have been dealt with by past presidents , but it wasn't . Bush is dealing with it now , after giving Sadaam every chance to comply . Wasn't it something like 17 UN resolutions Iraq failed to comply with ? You say it should have been dealt with earlier , now that it is , shouldn't you be supportive of it , since you do agree it needed to be dealt with ????
You still haven't pointed out anything in Charlie D's letter that he is wrong about .
I't reads diffrent to me when I look at the tv and see all of these has-beens like Dennis Miller(what -6 times now?) on the Tonight Show that were wash-ups and now that there is a war on they quickly jump on the bandwagon waving thier flags to the tune that pays the most.
You think Dennis should have jumped on the same wagon as a lot of the other Hollywood actors are riding ? The one where they look like complete idiots , not supporting the President and the troops . You still haven't pointed out anything in Charlie D's letter that he is wrong about .
I will take a crack at something Mr. Daniels is wrong about... (Although it is difficult, because he doesn't really say anything except to ask why the media doesn't ask certain questions....)
Here it is:
"Why don’t they admit that all the Middle East terrorists are after the
same thing, whether they are Palestinian, Iraqi or whatever?"
Nothing to "admit" to here unless you paint with a really broad brush. Palestinian terrorists have more prosaic goals than Al Qaeda, Abu Nidal etc. If Pakistan is in Charlie Daniel's Middle East, what about the terror groups based in Pakistan that routinely conduct attacks in Kashmir?
There is not a scintilla of evidence that they are all after the same thing except that they all probably want Israel elminated.
Also, notice how clever - perhaps unwittingly - Mr. Daniels is when drops in a reference to "Iraqi" terror groups. Hmm, do you remember anything about "Iraqi" terror groups? Where are the training camps? What groups are those? (Actually, if you ask the Indians, they will be happy to tell you about Pakistani terror groups, training camps and sanctuaries, but Pakistan is our ally, so only a--holes like Martin Sheen would find that vaguely hypocritical)
Now many of you will still agree with Mr. Daniels. What if the media did "admit" that all terror groups are after the same thing? What does it mean?
"What about the four thousand suicide bombers the Palestinians claim to have
sent into the Iraq? Is that not proof enough of collusion?"
First, I say "happy birthday" to the Israelis! Imagine how much easier it will be for a military force to detect and kill suicide bombers that try to attack them.
IF they said that, it is about as credible as a press release from the Iraqi information ministry. The Palestinians would say they invented baseball if it served their purposes.
Proof of collusion? Between who? If this is a war against Palestinian terror, then why aren't we, like the Israelis, in Palestine? Did we pick the wrong country?
Why don’t they show us the bombing of the Trade Towers and the Pentagon
to remind us of the inhuman monsters we’re fighting?"
What we did was invade Iraq. We are fighting the Hussein regime. The 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by Al Qaeda. The leaders of Al Qaeda described Hussein as an "infidel." Obviously, different sets of inhuman monsters. If Hussein was responsible for 9/11, we sure wasted our time in Afghanistan.
If we ADMIT that all middle east terrorists are after the same thing, they are all responsible for 9/11, and that message of support for Iraq are proof of cooperation and collusion between governments and terrorists, we are reduced to one strategy. War against every arab state in the middle east.
Here it is:
"Why don’t they admit that all the Middle East terrorists are after the
same thing, whether they are Palestinian, Iraqi or whatever?"
Nothing to "admit" to here unless you paint with a really broad brush. Palestinian terrorists have more prosaic goals than Al Qaeda, Abu Nidal etc. If Pakistan is in Charlie Daniel's Middle East, what about the terror groups based in Pakistan that routinely conduct attacks in Kashmir?
There is not a scintilla of evidence that they are all after the same thing except that they all probably want Israel elminated.
Also, notice how clever - perhaps unwittingly - Mr. Daniels is when drops in a reference to "Iraqi" terror groups. Hmm, do you remember anything about "Iraqi" terror groups? Where are the training camps? What groups are those? (Actually, if you ask the Indians, they will be happy to tell you about Pakistani terror groups, training camps and sanctuaries, but Pakistan is our ally, so only a--holes like Martin Sheen would find that vaguely hypocritical)
Now many of you will still agree with Mr. Daniels. What if the media did "admit" that all terror groups are after the same thing? What does it mean?
"What about the four thousand suicide bombers the Palestinians claim to have
sent into the Iraq? Is that not proof enough of collusion?"
First, I say "happy birthday" to the Israelis! Imagine how much easier it will be for a military force to detect and kill suicide bombers that try to attack them.
IF they said that, it is about as credible as a press release from the Iraqi information ministry. The Palestinians would say they invented baseball if it served their purposes.
Proof of collusion? Between who? If this is a war against Palestinian terror, then why aren't we, like the Israelis, in Palestine? Did we pick the wrong country?
Why don’t they show us the bombing of the Trade Towers and the Pentagon
to remind us of the inhuman monsters we’re fighting?"
What we did was invade Iraq. We are fighting the Hussein regime. The 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by Al Qaeda. The leaders of Al Qaeda described Hussein as an "infidel." Obviously, different sets of inhuman monsters. If Hussein was responsible for 9/11, we sure wasted our time in Afghanistan.
If we ADMIT that all middle east terrorists are after the same thing, they are all responsible for 9/11, and that message of support for Iraq are proof of cooperation and collusion between governments and terrorists, we are reduced to one strategy. War against every arab state in the middle east.
It is about oil....for other countries that is
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... France, Germany, Russia, Belgium and Canada are not on the side of peace or morality or the Iraqi people. The pictures from the streets of Baghdad make that plain. But we are on the side of TotalFinaElf. Twice in recent columns, Diane Francis has mentioned, almost en passant, a curious little fact: The Western oil company with the closest ties to the late Saddam is France's TotalFinaElf. That's not the curious fact, that's just business as usual in the Fifth Republic. This is the curious fact: As Diane wrote in February and again last week, "Total's biggest shareholder is Montreal's Paul Desmarais, whose youngest son is married to Prime Minister Jean Chretien's daughter."
Let's see if I've got this straight: TotalFinaElf's largest shareholder is a subsidiary of Montreal's Power Corp, whose co-chief executive is Jean Chretien's son-in-law, Andre Desmarais. Mr. Desmarais' brother, Paul Desmarais Jr., sits on the Total board. For months, the anti-war crowd has insisted that "it's all about oil," that the only reason the Iraqi people were being "liberated" was so that the second biggest oil reserves in the world could be annexed in perpetuity by Dick Cheney and Halliburton and the rest of Bush's Texas oilpatch gang. Instead, it turns out that, if it is all about oil, then the principal North American beneficiary of the continued enslavement of the Iraqi people is the family of the Canadian Prime Minister -- that's to say, his daughter, France Chretien, and his grandchildren. ...
The notion that France etc. were/are against the war simply because of oil is as ridiculous as the assertion that we invaded Iraq to seize the Iraqi oil.
Nonetheless, oil colors their decisions just as it colors ours. I would not be at all surprised if the French and other European countries were, in part, against the war because of fears that the flow of oil, Iraqi oil, OPEC oil, oil in general, would be cut off. For our part, we will certainly be happy to have the Iraqi oil under the control of someone more cooperative than Saddam.
As far as the rape, murder, torture etc. of Iraqi's, neither you, me, or the United States of America gave a rat's ass about that in the first fifteen to twenty years Saddam was doing it. We sure didn't care in the 80's, when we sent military advisers to Iraq to help them fight Iran. He was our bud then.
Please don't ask me to believe this war was fought to free the Iraqi's from oppression and torture. If you believe it, you are entitled to your delusion, but you better start compiling a list of all the countries, some of whom are our allies, that we will have to invade to set their people free from torture, rape and oppression.
Nonetheless, oil colors their decisions just as it colors ours. I would not be at all surprised if the French and other European countries were, in part, against the war because of fears that the flow of oil, Iraqi oil, OPEC oil, oil in general, would be cut off. For our part, we will certainly be happy to have the Iraqi oil under the control of someone more cooperative than Saddam.
As far as the rape, murder, torture etc. of Iraqi's, neither you, me, or the United States of America gave a rat's ass about that in the first fifteen to twenty years Saddam was doing it. We sure didn't care in the 80's, when we sent military advisers to Iraq to help them fight Iran. He was our bud then.
Please don't ask me to believe this war was fought to free the Iraqi's from oppression and torture. If you believe it, you are entitled to your delusion, but you better start compiling a list of all the countries, some of whom are our allies, that we will have to invade to set their people free from torture, rape and oppression.
You know what really pisses me off, Just because someone elses opinions differ from our own the other person is "dilusional". You see things different than everyone else and are intitled to your opinion so don't go around saying us who don't think like you are dilusional cause i'm far from it. Us sitting here bitching its about this or about that what fucking good is it doing? not a fucking bit. Point blank our troops are in Iraq we went there we kicked ass. If you can't support our troops no matter what side of the fence your on then people need to leave this free fucking country that our armed forces have worked so hard to protect for the last 200+ years!
France and Russia had big contracts with Iraq for oil. Ok lets see they have contracts, we invade, their contracts are now shit and both lose billions of dollars because of it. Whats so fucking hard to figure out here. If anyone of us was the leader of russia or france i really doubt we'd be for this war knowning our country is gonna lose billions of dollars because of it. I mean duh! )*
France and Russia had big contracts with Iraq for oil. Ok lets see they have contracts, we invade, their contracts are now shit and both lose billions of dollars because of it. Whats so fucking hard to figure out here. If anyone of us was the leader of russia or france i really doubt we'd be for this war knowning our country is gonna lose billions of dollars because of it. I mean duh! )*