I haven't really looked into the SSE2 stuff, but are there THAT many new instructions? I mean, code is still going to need single multiplies, adds, and shifts.
Oh, one more bad thing about the P4: No logical shift. Yup, you heard that right. It can only use a rotate unit, as they were having trouble fitting on the die size. So now, instead of a 1-2 clock cycle shift, you have a very long rotate, then you change the LSB or MSB, depending. That is just crazy.
Next from AMD
amd said this
"AMD disclosed that the first of several forthcoming processors, code-named Clawhammer, will be only 105 millimeters square--about the same size as a current Athlon chip and half the size of Intel's current Pentium 4 chips. But it will deliver more than three times the clock speed of the first Athlon, and its small size will help AMD hold down capital expenditures."
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Here's what's up Intels sleeve if anyone cares:
Intel Debuts P4 2GHz
Intel officials turned up further pressure on rival Advanced Micro Devices by demonstrating a 2GHz version of the Pentium 4 at the Intel Developer Forum. AMD's fastest processor currently available is the 1.33GHz Athlon launched in March. The 2GHz Pentium 4 processor is slated to ship during the third quarter of 2001, said Louis Burns, vice president and general manager of Intel's desktop platforms group. Meanwhile, if you're in the market for a new computer, or looking at building your own, you'll love this. Intel officials recently announced deep price reductions that are set to take effect April 29. The 1.5GHz Pentium 4, which carried a list price of $637 in March, will see its price cut to $256. The 1.4GHz and 1.3GHz Pentium 4s, which are currently priced at $375 and $268, respectively, will both fall to $193. The 1.7GHz Pentium 4 is priced at $352 in bulk quantities.
Intel Debuts P4 2GHz
Intel officials turned up further pressure on rival Advanced Micro Devices by demonstrating a 2GHz version of the Pentium 4 at the Intel Developer Forum. AMD's fastest processor currently available is the 1.33GHz Athlon launched in March. The 2GHz Pentium 4 processor is slated to ship during the third quarter of 2001, said Louis Burns, vice president and general manager of Intel's desktop platforms group. Meanwhile, if you're in the market for a new computer, or looking at building your own, you'll love this. Intel officials recently announced deep price reductions that are set to take effect April 29. The 1.5GHz Pentium 4, which carried a list price of $637 in March, will see its price cut to $256. The 1.4GHz and 1.3GHz Pentium 4s, which are currently priced at $375 and $268, respectively, will both fall to $193. The 1.7GHz Pentium 4 is priced at $352 in bulk quantities.
do they still come with ram at those prices? I have been wondering that.
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"software isn't optimized yet"....no excuse
i don't think that saying software isn't optimized for the P4 is a valid excuse for why it's slower than a much lower clocked tbird. sure, it might perform better if coders used every bit of intel logic built into the cpu, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon...so what is the point in spending that much more $$$ + new memory + new mobo + new power supply, etc...if you just have to WAIT for optimized software that might come out in 6-8 months?!? by then there will be another cpu out that is "faster"...but wait...it's not optimized either! HAHAHAHAHA
think i'll stick with my tbird that runs fine NOW and at a LOWER price.
it doesn't really matter anyways...the stupid consumers will still buy them. "look mom! a 29.67 Terahertz P4!!!! it performs the same as a 1 Gigahertz Tbird, but the NUMBER is BIGGER!!! it must be better!"
hehehehe
think i'll stick with my tbird that runs fine NOW and at a LOWER price.
it doesn't really matter anyways...the stupid consumers will still buy them. "look mom! a 29.67 Terahertz P4!!!! it performs the same as a 1 Gigahertz Tbird, but the NUMBER is BIGGER!!! it must be better!"
hehehehe
well, when the PPro first came out, it sucked. Everyone wondered why it could run 16 bit stuff very well. Then, everyone opened their eyes to the 32 bit world, and it blew eerythign else away. I think people are waiting for the same thing to happne with the Pentium4, but I am not so sure it will happen. I have seen tests with P4 optimized code, and it is simply not that fast.
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